Remigius wrote:Hello. I'd like to know how valid this link still is: http://www.expatperu.com/becoming-a-per ... riage.html. I am a foreigner, residing for more than 5 years in Peru, and married to a Peruvian.
stuart wrote:Considering these fools are the ones issuing C.E.s there doesn't seem much point in legalising a copy of one, and it wouldn't surprise me Remigius if you end up not needing to do this your time around. Make sure you post about your experiences though!
markr wrote:stuart wrote:Considering these fools are the ones issuing C.E.s there doesn't seem much point in legalising a copy of one, and it wouldn't surprise me Remigius if you end up not needing to do this your time around. Make sure you post about your experiences though!
I'm quoting direct from the DIGEMIN's "DIRECCION DE NACIONALIZACION" leaflet that they gave me when I made enquiries in March this year.
I thought exactly the same as you, but nothing comes as a surprise so, as I always suggest, don't question, don't argue, just do as asked and these processes are quite simple.
There is no mention of having your spouses DNI legalized.
fanning wrote:Congratulations !
You are Dutch, I believe. In that case be sure to get now a fresh copy of your marriage certificate, legalize it by the dutch embassy, to proof in the future when you get your new DUTCH passport, that you were married at the time of ACQUIRING the Peruvian nationality. The requirement for Holland NOT to loose the Dutch nationality is that you were married to someone who has the nationality at the time you acquired an other nationaliy.
So better be safe than sorry, NOW is that time, so if in the future you partner dies, or get divorced, you can proof that at the time of ACQUIRING you were married !
Also be sure that you get a new Dutch passport at least once every 10 years, else you also loose your Dutch.
I am going to do the same by the way. I just want to wait what the new (rightwing) government is planning on making stricter the immigration rules. ( and maybe block expats from getting another nationality in any case )
I married in Peru 10 years ago and had my marriage registered in Holland 3 years later, so I should have all bases covered
fanning wrote:Technically speaking with that you only prove that 7 or 10 years ago you were married. You must make sure that on the moment of Acquiring the other nationality, that you were married AT THAT MOMENT with somebody who has that nationality.
If you get now a fresh copy of your marriage certificate you can on paper proof that you are NOW married.
Alan wrote:I am happy and proud to report that I am now legally Peruvian. The process wasn't the smoothest, but it wasn't terrible either.
Alan wrote:I am happy and proud to report that I am now legally Peruvian. The process wasn't the smoothest, but it wasn't terrible either. I actually found the staff there to be pretty motivated on the whole, but the system could be improved.
american_in_lima wrote:show up to Migraciones early with a light bill and you will have your passport in less than 3 hours.
fanning wrote:I was supposed to get the Peruvian nationality in november. I had my 'final' appointment with the director of naturalizacion, and after that they took my (electronic) fingerprints, (electronic) signature, and (electronic) passphoto. With that and a final check of all my documents, they printed my Peruvian 'Titulo'. This document would be the final document, proofing my Peruvian citizenship, and 'only' needed to be signed by the director general of Migraciones himself. That would take 2 weeks... But as all things in Migraciones things don't always work out how they say it will. Now after 1.5 months after calling them every week, they told me that the director general was replaced by a new guy, and he made up some new rules. He in fact doesn't like to sign documents which have electronic printed signatures on them, so they made me come back today to do the whole signing process again. This time not electronic, but they actually printed the titulo and made me sign it in real.
Now it is off again to the director general, so lets see what nonsense he thinks of now again to keep me from my titulo. In the mean time we are in 2011, so 'logically' because of their mistake of not informing me of their changed director with new signing rules, I will have to pay the Tasa Anual for my Carnet, and immidiately after signing they will keep my Carnet and give me the Citizenship.
Well it seems to be the last hurdle, so who knows that by the end of the month I finally have my DNI.. Then off to go to the banks, registros publicos, etc. to have them change my CE for a DNI.
fanning wrote:I will have to pay the Tasa Anual for my Carnet, and immidiately after signing they will keep my Carnet and give me the Citizenship.
fanning wrote:But then because I didn't get my DNI before the 11th of December 2010 I will not be able to vote, so probably I will get a multa for not voting..
gerard wrote:Got my citizenship yesterday (INSCRIPCIÓN DE PERUANO(A) POR MATRIMONIO). I seem to have had a slightly easier experience than others. I applied on Jan 20th, was given an interview date for the following week which they cancelled after keeping me hanging around for a couple of hours, had a 2nd appointment a few days later but it wasn't an interview, it was just the same guy who had looked at my application and all he did was confirm my details and take a photo and fingerprints, and then 10 days later I got my certificate. Total time was 22 days. No police, no home visits, no phone calls, no name changes - not even required to add my mother's maiden name.
gerard wrote:So half an hour later we were back there with the original and they decided that it would actually need an official translation from the Ministry of Foreign Relations. As that is way too much hassle we said to just put me down for the basic level.
Then they couldn't figure out how to enter my place of birth in the UK correctly (2 guys, 4 attempts between them) and once they got that right and tried to submit the page the application crashed.
But they still didn't care I only had one surname.
fanning wrote:My place of birth was also a bit odd.. They only had about 15 cities and provinces of Holland in their system, and mine wasn't there. And they couldn't add a new one. So from now on I am born in Amsterdam for Peruvian authorities. ( Actually is is just a code on your DNI )
Also I only appear with my fathersname, no mothersname printed. They did however ask the names of my parents, but I didn't need to show any document that actually showed their names.
Maybe it's because you're men that you didn't need both names
fanning wrote:Maybe it's because you're men that you didn't need both names
I have seen another Dutch ( also male ) who got a DNI, and he also didn't have a mothersname printed on it. But as far as I know the reason is that on the Titulo their is no mothersname printed on it, ( and also not on my old CE ), and as the requirement to get a DNI is ONLY the Titulo ( with the copy of a bill, and a passphoto ) they could not demand of you to show a document with your mothersname on it. You fight them with their own rules, no?
My titulo has "father's name, mother's name"
fanning wrote:My titulo has "father's name, mother's name"
So the problem was not RENIEC, but Migraciones ( Naturalizacion ) Already on your Titulo appears your mothersname. What document you had to show to Migraciones to proof your mothersname ? As the only requirement for the Titulo was a CE and a fresh copy of your marriage certificate ( which doesn't show your mothersname.. )
What's the need to have your level of education accuarately recognized? My understanding is that its only purpose is to have you be chosen as the head of the mesa at elections... not a great way to spend a day.