el conquistador wrote:
kristina423x wrote:I am a graduating senior in college, but have years of customer experience, and travel experience, which is what they ask for for this job. Does anyone have any ideas on how much I should ask for in regards to the cost of living in Lima? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks so much.
Even with high degree, starting wages are low in Peru. You also have to take into account the competition. There are 100's of jobopenings in Lima on a daily basis, but 1000's are applying for each job.
Be carefull with companies that promise high wages. Often you see at lightposts advertisements or in local newspapers advertisements in the like of 'Empresa Americana busca 100 empleados. Venta, customer service y administration. Sueldo $1000.' Those are scams. Often they are callcenters that pay comission on sales or often you have to try to sell things from door to door like flashlights, perfums or sunglasses. If you sell thousands of them then you will maybe make a few hundred $$$ but most of those people make only a few soles.
750 soles a month will be good starting wage. After a few years, you can ask for an increase.
Rooms can be rented for 200-300 soles a month, for food budget 10 soles a day. Food and groceries are cheap at markets. Try to live as close to work as possible thus lowering public transport costs.
When my gf and I lived in Lima, we lived of 1500 soles a month (for the both of us) and we lived comfortably. Even after 600 soles a month went to rent.
True this is one perspective to see the Peruvian job market. And while its saturated with applicants,
most of them are not properly qualified for certain positions. One needs to look at the skills that make
you unique as an employee. While there is some Peruvians that are fluent English, there is not enough
people to fill the required seats to the capacity required by the companies, this is why the starting sala
ry for English speakers is $500.
I arrived in Lima back in 2007 after 7 years in the US, without a degree and no connections of any kind,
and I thought at that moment that the work market worked as specified in elconquistador posts, but is
not true. Things depend on how hard are you willing to look for the job. It took me two months to get
my first job, I applied to 100s of companies receiving offers similar to the ones that elconquistador
mentions on his posts. At the end of the two months I found by accident a foreign newspaper job ad
for a Pharma company and sent my application. After 8 exhaustive exams I was hired at half time
working online with an hourly salary of $15 dollars an hour (only 20 hours a week); that job was a
temporary position that lasted a year. And even while I was employed then, I continued looking
for a regular job in Lima, then I found this forum and applied to a tech support position at a
company in Miraflores with a starting salary of $500 (dollars), and while the company was not
an adequate place to work because they did not respect their own rules and procedures, it was
a growing experience for me.
When I was working at the tech support company I witnessed how some of the employees were
called and offered a higher salary and moved on to better places. (Tech support people moved
to other jobs in Lima that paid $700 to $800 a month, sales people moved to jobs that gave them
a steady $1100 to $1200), actually I witnessed a altercation when one of the sales people was
offered the $1200 dollars a month and because he was so happy he shared the news with the
owner of the company, who was not as happy and started to insult him.
After 5 months of working at that company. I received an offer from another company with a
$ 700 starting salary (40 hours a week, paid holidays, two week vacations) but I was cautious
so I spoke with my manager at the company where I was requesting to work only 40 hours a
week there with the duties as determined in the job description at the moment of hire.
Unfortunately the new manager was a Peruvian woman and it did not respect the agreement
so I presented my resignation by the end of the month. A month later I was working at the
new company and I was the employee of the month after 3 months, I remained with them
for a couple of years and then I came back to the US. I continued trying to find if there is
any other job that paid more. I received an offer for a $1000 monthly, but because I was
a few months away from going back to the US, I did not go to the Interview.
Now at that time I did not have a degree so I could not apply to better positions.
I really hope that our posts serve as an accurate guide of what can be achieved in Lima.
Another comment, do not sell yourself short in the amount of skills that you have.
When I arrived to the tech support company after being hired by the owner, the american
manager gave a pep talk about how to work in an Peruvian company that works for American
Customers, he wrote the outline of my job description and told me, just stick to do this in
here. If you are asked to train somebody stick to the outline, do not teach anything outside
the outline (you will be saving money to the owner, but your work will not be recognized).
Even if the advice is about little things like customer service, just stick to the outline.
This manager was right. While there is many manuals in English and Spanish in Lima
there is very few people that fully understands proper business procedures and this
knowledge is valuable. The tech support company had a failing crm. But no peruvian
was willing to repair it unless he was paid the marked rate of $2000 per month so
the company lost like 50 million dollars on that. Even after I left they hired several
programmers paying 750 soles a month, some of them were not even able to build
such a tool and the ones that could were making already $2000 or more per month.