Parque Kennedy and Pizza Alley – Current situation?

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Parque Kennedy and Pizza Alley – Current situation?

Postby teamoperu » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:15 pm

So what is the truth? I know years ago it had a reputation, but I thought I heard they cleaned it up. And reputations like that are hard to quell. So what is the current situation there?

In recent years, when I go I do not see anything glaring or perturbing. I am going about my business and see others doing pretty much that too. More likely I am approached by someone begging for money than someone willing to trade for it.

Chi chi writes “The bar scene in Miraflores is full of bricheras, hookers, peperas, bricheros and there are many transexuals as well. (many transexuals are hard to distinghuish). Once a year I have to go to the Embassy of Belgium and I unfortunately have to walk through Miraflores. The first thing I hear when I get off the combi at Parque Kennedy is ''PSSST, PSSST, HEY GUAPO'' and some smart dressed and empty headed cute looking girl starts following me. And the gay prostitutes that sit at the benches at Parque Kennedy start blinking an eye when you pass by. ”

Well, that doesn't happen to me when I get off the bus. Never. You? So why are they on to chi chi like flies? I know s*x trade workers can spot a plain-clothed cop from afar and are pretty good at distinguishing potential clients from non-clients. They don't “pssst, psst hey guapo” at me... because I am not guapo? Nor am I up on the inside lingo, like chi chi is, not sure I can identify the differential meanings of brichera, hooker, peperas, bricheros or transexuals. You?

How exactly does one get the experience to spot a transsexual from afar? I can't. Indeed, I'd need to actually chat with a person do even suspect that. Yup, “many transexuals are hard to distinuguish”, but he seems to be able to do it. And I could not for the life of me distinguish between a gay prostitute from an ordinary one when passing by, well below my pay grade, but apparently well within his. Also pretty hard for me to identify a cute girl who is empty headed versus one who is full headed, unless maybe he chatted with them a bit? It is almost like a non-guapo kind-a-guy like me passing through doesn't notice anything glaring, but if I was on the prowl I might observe more?

So my question: is Parque Kennedy really as Sir chi chi describes or is it the eye, and experience, of the beholder?


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Re: Parque Kennedy and Pizza Alley – Current situation?

Postby chi chi » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:31 pm

It won't make sense if they cleaned it up because the drugdealers, hookers, bricheras, etc. will just move to another área of Miraflores and cause problems over there.

If you kick them out of La Calle de las Pizzas, then they might move to Larcomar.
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Re: Parque Kennedy and Pizza Alley – Current situation?

Postby teamoperu » Sat Jun 28, 2014 9:22 pm

Well, if anyone would know the consequences it would be you chi chi. You are the man, the resident expert here on s*x tourism and prostitutes.
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Postby Sergio Bernales » Sun Jun 29, 2014 10:55 am

When a man called Chichi walks by, well...

http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/tran ... pen=chichi
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Postby teamoperu » Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:20 am

chi chi wrote:It won't make sense if they cleaned it up because the drugdealers, hookers, bricheras, etc. will just move to another área of Miraflores and cause problems over there.

If you kick them out of La Calle de las Pizzas, then they might move to Larcomar.


Since you are an expert,chichi, maybe you can be helpful and educate us less knowledgeable folks? You say some transvestites are hard to distinguish. (Sounds like a man with experience, maybe even a bad experience?) So, how does one distinguish a hard to distinguish transvestite? And what are the insider tricks to identify a gay prostitute from other prostitutes, when passing through Kennedy park? I am always willing to learn something new.
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Postby TonyLeslie » Sun Jun 29, 2014 2:33 pm

I am another poor soul that seems to miss out on all the action around Miraflores and Parque Kennedy. For 3 1/2 years of going to classes and/or lunch with my mates, all gringos, in that area, not one proposition for girls or drugs to any of us. The only thing we ever get asked is if we want to change dollars or invitations to try restaurants. We are getting disappointed after so much expectations from Chi Chi, Euromans and I forget the other names being used to tell us we could expect some action there.
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Postby panman » Sun Jun 29, 2014 3:49 pm

TonyLeslie wrote:I am another poor soul that seems to miss out on all the action around Miraflores and Parque Kennedy. For 3 1/2 years of going to classes and/or lunch with my mates, all gringos, in that area, not one proposition for girls or drugs to any of us. The only thing we ever get asked is if we want to change dollars or invitations to try restaurants. We are getting disappointed after so much expectations from Chi Chi, Euromans and I forget the other names being used to tell us we could expect some action there.

I'm equally disappointed. 7 + years and not one proposition in the same area, other than would you like to eat sir?
Perhaps the question was in code, but surely the fact that I'm always with with my wife would have put them off offering me anything other than Pizza to munch on.
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Postby richiecry » Wed Jul 02, 2014 11:27 am

I´ve been propositioned for drugs....but nothing else. That being said....having lived here for 6 months....and having visited Lima more than 20 times prior to this....calle de los pizzas HAS cleaned up from what it was years ago. Perhaps it WAS how Chi Chi described....but it definately is not now.
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Postby Sergio Bernales » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:09 pm

panman wrote:
TonyLeslie wrote:I am another poor soul that seems to miss out on all the action around Miraflores and Parque Kennedy. For 3 1/2 years of going to classes and/or lunch with my mates, all gringos, in that area, not one proposition for girls or drugs to any of us. The only thing we ever get asked is if we want to change dollars or invitations to try restaurants. We are getting disappointed after so much expectations from Chi Chi, Euromans and I forget the other names being used to tell us we could expect some action there.

I'm equally disappointed. 7 + years and not one proposition in the same area, other than would you like to eat sir?
Perhaps the question was in code, but surely the fact that I'm always with with my wife would have put them off offering me anything other than Pizza to munch on.


Ditto. Only ever been hassled by the restaurant staff trying to coax me inside. Some prostitutes appear around midnight, but as far as I can see, they tend to keep themselves to themselves and only seem to approach single men.
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Re: Parque Kennedy and Pizza Alley – Current situation?

Postby Sergio Bernales » Wed Jul 02, 2014 3:12 pm

chi chi wrote:It won't make sense if they cleaned it up because the drugdealers, hookers, bricheras, etc. will just move to another área of Miraflores and cause problems over there.

If you kick them out of La Calle de las Pizzas, then they might move to Larcomar.


Even though most of these characters seem to exist only in your imagination, it's still not going to happen. Larcomar has too many guardias. They're very tight on security and keeping up the image. Anyone suspicious or blind drunk tends to get chucked out.
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Re: Parque Kennedy and Pizza Alley – Current situation?

Postby joseyliza » Thu Jul 03, 2014 9:54 pm

Funny because I was just in Miraflores today and we walked down to Larcomar, came back up, and walked down Calle de las Pizzas. I had heard of it before and was curious. Like someone else mentioned, the only harassment came from the people trying to get you to eat in their restaurants.

No complaints at all here.
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Re: Parque Kennedy and Pizza Alley – Current situation?

Postby fanning » Thu Jul 03, 2014 11:43 pm

When I walk around Pizza Alley, I never got bothered. But to my big surprise once when I was with some Dutch friends who came to visit me, we actually were approached by some men who had a file with woman, and offered them to us, just crossing from the park to Pizza Alley. It was more funny than shocking at that moment, but it made me rethink that the area actually IS a prostitucion area, but only if you really seem to be a tourist.
I suppose I generally just are taken as a local, but when walking around with obvious tourists/gringos, we were picked out as potential customers of the more shady side of Calle de las Pizzas.
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Postby ironchefchris » Fri Jul 04, 2014 12:14 am

fanning wrote:]we actually were approached by some men who had a file with woman, and offered them to us

Perhaps one of them was recent US Presidential candidate, Mitt Romney? During a Presidential debate he mentioned he had "binders full of women."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfXgpem78kQ

As far as the alley, I was offered coke the very fist time I passed the entrance to the alley but never again. A few times at night a girl or two obvious working or looking for company said buenas noches, but that's it. They never followed me as I just responded buenas noches in kind without breaking stride. Every other time it was someone with a menu in their hand trying to get me inside a restaurant. Nothing at all like San Jose, Costa Rica were prostitution is legal and casinos are filled with annoying prostitutes who have a hard time taking "no, I'm not interested" for an answer.
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Re: Parque Kennedy and Pizza Alley – Current situation?

Postby KenBE » Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:26 pm

I have been to the Calle de las Pizzas a few times. I was never offered drugs and no prostitutes opproached me either. It is just an alley with restaurants, bars and discotecas. The prostitution that goes on there isn't very noticeable. I did see one old gringo with a young Peruana who was probably a prostitute, but that was it.

The discoteca that I went to there was just like the ones you find in Barranco. There were some tourists there as well as lots of regular Peruvians (groups and couples).
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Re: Parque Kennedy and Pizza Alley – Current situation?

Postby TShadow » Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:04 pm

I've been living near Parque Kennedy for 3 months and passed there every day. In the whole time I've been approached only once by a prostitute and when eating out with some friends in Pizza Alley we've never been harassed by any infamous Pizza Alley woman.

The only negative part I recently saw is the increasing presence of people asking you for money.

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