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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby mrsteak » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:08 am

windsportinperu wrote:
mrsteak wrote: I see lot of chaos caused by Venezuelan here in Lima.


What kind of chaos are you seeing that the rest of us are not seeing ?


Maybe it is not polite to answer a question with a question, but: what chaos do you mean would have happened in Spain if 100.000 Venezuelan migrated to Spain? :roll:


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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:28 am

:D you are evading the question. I do not blame you for that, because once you check your false reality vs evident reality, you get somehow no answer.

Spain has political instability. The region of Cataluña wants to be independent from Spain. Is it enough reason for you ?

I would like you to prove that Spain can actually receive thousands and thousands of new migrants.. Now you have a lot of homework to do :wink:
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby mrsteak » Mon Feb 19, 2018 10:48 am

windsportinperu wrote::D you are evading the question. I do not blame you for that, because once you check your false reality vs evident reality, you get somehow no answer.

Spain has political instability. The region of Cataluña wants to be independent from Spain. Is it enough reason for you ?

I would like you to prove that Spain can actually receive thousands and thousands of new migrants.. Now you have a lot of homework to do :wink:


Now you got lost in your own contradictions!

Read again my original post. I said the flood of Venezuelan people is not good for the country as there are no good jobs even for the young Peruvian - true or false? Peru is full of young people working for minimum wages - true or false?

I said they would be better doing in developed EU economies that are in need for young people, as their societies are full of old people - true or false?

Instead you claim: Venezuelan coming to Spain would create a chaos - ?! WTF. It does not link in any aspect to my comments about EU. I also did not mention Spain as the best place for people from VE. I said "developed EU countries". I can hardly see how 150.000 people from VE spread across 5-10 EU countries would create a chaos there. They would be better migrants for these countries than people from Middle East in my opinion (I at least do not see any Venezuelan women walking with burka LOL).
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:16 am

I suggest to re-read my words. ""Let's Imagine 150,000 Venezuelan getting into Spain nowadays. It would be total chaos"" . It was my statement, not yours.
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby mrsteak » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:02 pm

windsportinperu wrote:I suggest to re-read my words. ""Let's Imagine 150,000 Venezuelan getting into Spain nowadays. It would be total chaos"" . It was my statement, not yours.


Hmmmm.......... suffering from a reading dissociative disorder?

You fail to deliver any proof for your claim. Not funded by any fact.

Not related to my post neither, as I did not mention Spain as target country. :?:
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:21 pm

mrsteak wrote: Not related to my post neither, as I did not mention Spain as target country. :?:


When I mentioned Spain, it was not related to your comments. It was not said to probe that you were wrong..

It was said just to compare Peru vs Spain as a destination for thousands of migrants.
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby mrsteak » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:30 pm

I would distribute the 150.000 migrants across UK, France, Holland, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland - that would hardly create any chaos. :!:
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:38 pm

mrsteak wrote:I would distribute the 150.000 migrants across UK, France, Holland, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland - that would hardly create any chaos. :!:


Are you Angela Merkel ? :D

I agree, that all those countries can receive 150k people or more..

Let's keep a healthy mind. God bless you..
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:57 am

Venezuelans now preparing peruvian food !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlWaNx9b-CM
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby toughrider » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:33 am

windsportinperu wrote:I would like you to prove that Spain can actually receive thousands and thousands of new migrants..


I went to Spain in 2014 to look for a job. I applied for at least 750 jobs.
I speak fluent Spanish and a few other languages. I have experience in sales, restaurants, hotels, aviation.
I am prepared to work nights, weekends, overtime and I would accepted the low Spanish wages.
And I was prepared to relocate to anywhere in Spain. And as an EU citizen, I am legally entitled to work in Spain without any restrictions.

Still, I couldn't find a job.

So, do you think that thousands of low skilled South American immigrants who don't have the legal right to work in EU will be an asset?



mrsteak wrote:
windsportinperu wrote:I said they would be better doing in developed EU economies that are in need for young people, as their societies are full of old people - true or false?


Factories moved to the Far East, supermarkets are introducing self check outs, shops selling clothes/white goods/electronics are disappearing as people buy on the internet, banks are closing offices as they want their customers to use internet banking...

And most of those young people moving to the EU are low skilled and aren't even interested in working. They know that some EU countries offer free housing, healthcare and generous welfare benefits.
That's the reason why they move to Scandinavia, France, UK, Belgium, Germany, Austria, Holland,...

They don't go to Poland, Portugal, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Latvia, Lithuania because those countries won't give them free housing and high unemployments benefits.
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby toughrider » Tue Feb 20, 2018 8:45 am

mrsteak wrote:I'm pro "importing" people from VE to (northern) EU & Switzerland. They would be a far better support to these countries than the waves of people from middle east we have seen in the recent path.


Why doesn't the US take in all those Venezuelans? The US is closer and there's room enough to house more immigrants. The US is involved in a tit for tat war with Venezuela so they should deal with it.

That there's a mass immigration from the Middle East to Europe is the fault of the US. The war in Afghanistan, Iraq and Lybia is the cause of this immigration wave. The US should take in all immigrants from the Middle East. The US lost all those wars so they should pay for the aftermath. Not Europe.
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:34 am

She cried tears of joy after receiving peruvian nationality !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nykxPAiAqAA
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:18 am

Venezuela is total chaos !,

No food, no medicine, no sugar, no flour, large queue of cars for gasoline..

No future, no hope..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjdAFH0XYlM
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Thu Mar 15, 2018 4:53 pm

Generosity of Peru !

A peruvian guy is offering free homestaying to Venezuelans during their first steps in Lima . More than 80

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPDWE45F8fw
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Fri Mar 16, 2018 4:07 pm

The paradise for pets ! , made by a Venezuelan girl in Lima

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jQ4sMd3Pec
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:06 pm

Top 7 peruvian dishes ! made by a Venezuelan guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEu8tDxChVg
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:45 pm

Thousands of Venezuelans called for a demonstration in Lima against Maduro

Real freedom in action !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rn7eJ2Yp1og
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Sat Apr 28, 2018 3:34 pm

Another video made by a Venezuelan guy.

He enjoys his work ... travelling in Apurimac (Sierra del Peru)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhCLg3gcd9Q
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Wed May 02, 2018 10:30 pm

From Syria to Venezuela ... and then From Venezuela to Peru !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyHovacE2uQ
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby asgp » Tue Jun 05, 2018 1:21 pm

mrsteak wrote:
asgp wrote:Not necessarily. Many Venezuelans are willing to work more hours than the average Peruvian. Plus they willingness to work is an big deal to Peruvian employers.


Great! Work more for less in a country where you make nearly nothing on an average wage is exactly what this country needs! I guess many peruvian families will be happy!


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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:10 pm

Bad news for Venezuelans.

They are not welcome anymore in Brazil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0zpJ033FZc
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby adrian Thorne » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:26 pm

windsportinperu wrote:Bad news for Venezuelans.

They are not welcome anymore in Brazil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0zpJ033FZc


The borders are virtually closed in Ecuador and from the 25th August Peru are only allowing Passport holders to cross in to Peru. On Sunday a new revalued currency is being introduced, removing the last five digits. In addition to this Maduro has increased the minimum wage by 3500%, which will be the final death nail to a lot of businesses.

In a statement last Tuesday Maduro announced that the young people who have left are all beggars and slaves to other countries and would be welcomed back with open arms.
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:46 am

You are right, Adrian.

Reason why Brazilians expelled Venezuelans from their territory and burned their belongings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CML-C3XSFjk
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Wed Aug 22, 2018 2:34 pm

Juan Requesens,

A brave young venezuelan guy saying the things as they really are

It would be extremely useful if someone could translate the whole message to english , This way, we are helping to Venezuela

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWH0ri1RldQ
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Thu Aug 30, 2018 5:05 pm

These good Venezuelans living in the jungle (Iquitos) decide to help to maintain clean the riverside, as a Gesture of Thanks to Peru,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBpa__hpX-Q
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Sun Sep 02, 2018 5:40 pm

Venezuelan girl shows her reason why she chose Peru (instead of Chile or Argentina):

Cheap cost of living, kindness, food, climate, easy to make your own micro-business.

Peru as she says is a blessed country..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU2aUt1w6Nc
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby Formidable 1 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:14 am

windsportinperu wrote:Venezuelan girl shows her reason why she chose Peru (instead of Chile or Argentina):

Cheap cost of living, kindness, food, climate, easy to make your own micro-business.

Peru as she says is a blessed country..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZU2aUt1w6Nc

And if she's sleight of hand, she could make a bundle as a cashier.
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby Formidable 1 » Wed Sep 05, 2018 11:16 am

This Venezuelan fella and his mama know how to eat that world class grub on the cheap...
https://youtu.be/h2NmnChcKrA
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Wed Sep 12, 2018 6:14 pm

Filming inside a supermarket in Venezuela during 2017 (shortage of food) and later in 2018 (extreme scarcity of products)

2 kilograms of flour have "regulated price", so you must stand in a kilometric queue without losing your mind

2 young brave Venezuelans men were filming during a very risking situation. At any moment could be caught by the mafia aka "police" and go to jail

Minimum wage in Venezuela = 1 liter of milk !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlze8a7f1Zw
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Re: Peru helping to Venezuela

Postby windsportinperu » Sat Sep 15, 2018 4:02 pm

No more money for maintenance is causing irregular electric behavior : Unbelievable !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmHuy63yJXg

P.S. Maduro and his followers are a curse for Venezuela :x

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