Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

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Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby windsportinperu » Wed May 15, 2019 5:17 pm

Paiche is the biggest fish in the Amazon - It was an endangered species, but no more

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fjn9GblBhJE

I.I.A.P (Instituto de Investigaciones de la Amazonía Peruana) has made a huge investigation the last decades.

They are promoting the cultivation of this big fish in aquaculture (fish-farms) in the Amazon


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Re: Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby Formidable 1 » Wed May 15, 2019 9:58 pm

Better to eat wild caught fish vs fish from a fish farm.
Farmed fish are often fed corn, soy, or other feedstuffs that contain little or no omega-3's. This unnatural, high-corn diet also means some farmed fish accumulate unhealthy levels of the wrong fatty acids.
Further, farmed fish are routinely dosed with antibiotics, which can cause antibiotic-resistant disease in humans.
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Re: Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby 69roadrunner » Thu May 16, 2019 8:49 am

Formidable 1 wrote:Better to eat wild caught fish vs fish from a fish farm.
Farmed fish are often fed corn, soy, or other feedstuffs that contain little or no omega-3's. This unnatural, high-corn diet also means some farmed fish accumulate unhealthy levels of the wrong fatty acids.
Further, farmed fish are routinely dosed with antibiotics, which can cause antibiotic-resistant disease in humans.

Sounds like the way they raise those fat rotisserie chickens. Most notable, the use of steroids.
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Re: Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby windsportinperu » Thu May 16, 2019 9:47 am

Formidable 1 wrote:Better to eat wild caught fish vs fish from a fish farm.


Definitely everything that is 100% natural is always better
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Re: Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby Alan » Thu May 16, 2019 11:26 am

Formidable 1 wrote:Better to eat wild caught fish vs fish from a fish farm.
Farmed fish are often fed corn, soy, or other feedstuffs that contain little or no omega-3's. This unnatural, high-corn diet also means some farmed fish accumulate unhealthy levels of the wrong fatty acids.
Further, farmed fish are routinely dosed with antibiotics, which can cause antibiotic-resistant disease in humans.


True. This is one of the reason Peruvian fish meal is such a popular ingredient in fish feed: it's chock full of omega 3 and omega 6. Hopefully this makes up a good part of the diet of Peruvian farmed fish. It would be interesting to find out.

On the other hand, fish from the sea have high levels of mercury, especially tuna. We are damned if we do, or damned if we don't.

I have heard, and it makes sense, that if you do eat fish from the sea, they should be smaller, younger fish, which are further down the food-chain.
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Re: Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby windsportinperu » Thu May 16, 2019 12:48 pm

These 2 elements are together : 1º protection of nature + 2º opportunities of business for the people from remote areas in Peru

Paiche is a high protein fish - as high as 20%

USA is importing Paiche as a delicatessen, and it seem to be that new markets are going to be open in Europe

https://gestion.pe/economia/peru-busca- ... xpo-232291
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Re: Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby 69roadrunner » Fri May 17, 2019 9:25 am

Alan wrote:
Formidable 1 wrote:Better to eat wild caught fish vs fish from a fish farm.
Farmed fish are often fed corn, soy, or other feedstuffs that contain little or no omega-3's. This unnatural, high-corn diet also means some farmed fish accumulate unhealthy levels of the wrong fatty acids.
Further, farmed fish are routinely dosed with antibiotics, which can cause antibiotic-resistant disease in humans.


True. This is one of the reason Peruvian fish meal is such a popular ingredient in fish feed: it's chock full of omega 3 and omega 6. Hopefully this makes up a good part of the diet of Peruvian farmed fish. It would be interesting to find out.

On the other hand, fish from the sea have high levels of mercury, especially tuna. We are damned if we do, or damned if we don't.

I have heard, and it makes sense, that if you do eat fish from the sea, they should be smaller, younger fish, which are further down the food-chain.

I hope that Peruvian fish meal comes from no where near the Rimac River and outflow. There is a lot more than mercury floating in that water.
https://www.ooskanews.com/story/2012/10 ... ver_152928
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Re: Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby windsportinperu » Fri May 17, 2019 11:53 am

Good Questions, 69road,

Carapongo PTAR - Waste Water Treatment Plant - works just before the Rimac goes into the Ocean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoZLYoXq0wo

The fish meal industry - harina de pescado - is based on Anchoveta and is caught far from Rimac at "high seas" and far from the Coast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fClVM4o_jC0

Peru is the Nº 1 in the World for Fish Meal ! https://www.snp.org.pe/harina-de-pescado/
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Re: Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby 69roadrunner » Fri May 17, 2019 1:46 pm

windsportinperu wrote:Good Questions, 69road,

Carapongo PTAR - Waste Water Treatment Plant - works just before the Rimac goes into the Ocean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoZLYoXq0wo

The fish meal industry - harina de pescado - is based on Anchoveta and is caught far from Rimac at "high seas" and far from the Coast https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fClVM4o_jC0

Peru is the Nº 1 in the World for Fish Meal ! https://www.snp.org.pe/harina-de-pescado/

If those youtube vids are supposed to answer my 'good questions' (although I didn't ask any) they failed, I do not speak Spanish. Furthermore this is an English speaking forum, as spelled out in the "Forum Guidelines. Posts and attachments should be in English when possible. If not, we ask that you attach a translation. Posts in other languages may be deleted at the moderators' discretion."
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Re: Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby windsportinperu » Fri May 17, 2019 3:24 pm

Sorry if the information wasn't useful
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Re: Arapaima - Paiche - Amazon Fish Protected in Peru

Postby Alan » Fri May 17, 2019 3:25 pm

Most of the information regarding the Rimac is pre-2013, but I found this fairly recent article about some initiatives to improve the quality:

https://theecologist.org/2017/jul/20/se ... ver-valley

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