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Re: proposes to require visas to countries requesting the same

Postby tupacperu » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:46 pm

Re: Return / Onward travel
by americorps » Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:31 pm
Some other option include getting a bus reservation confirmation via email for something to Chile or Ecuador.

When that was still an issue for me, I once also made a reservation on the PERUVIAN website for a ticket and purchased the option to pay later that day at Plaza Vea. I presented that to the airline when they demanded a return ticket....after explaining to them that they really meant onward passage, and they actually confirmed the reservation in their computers, but since it confirmed as an actual reservation, they did accept it.


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Re: proposes to require visas to countries requesting the same

Postby americorps » Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:27 am

Your failure tupac is peruvian law is not the same as the new shengan law.

Peruvian law does not define a differenciation of onward passage.or reservation.

The Shengan group does define the difference

So you and chichi are still advocating and promoting fraud.
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Re: proposes to require visas to countries requesting the same

Postby argidd » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:43 am

Well, bottom line is, most Peruvians/Colombians who want to migrate to Schengen states will not read an Expat site for advice. Also, most people who migrate just buy a round trip ticket, say they are going to visit and end up staying, usually because that is the way they planned it.
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Re: proposes to require visas to countries requesting the same

Postby chi chi » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:46 am

americorps wrote:Your failure tupac is peruvian law is not the same as the new shengan law.

Peruvian law does not define a differenciation of onward passage.or reservation.

The Shengan group does define the difference

So you and chichi are still advocating and promoting fraud.


Tupac and Chi Chi are on ''Americorps' most wanted list''.
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Re: proposes to require visas to countries requesting the same

Postby argidd » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:47 am

And yes, unfortunately, opening up borders will help ilegal immigration increase. Why if Europe isn't doing so great?
Because most people would prefer to live in a poor neighborhood in Europe, then in the slums, pueblos jóvenes or cerros of Peru. Possibly because doing a minor/unskilled job you can have a bit of a better life, and even if you are discriminated upon, you will be allowed into public places, cinema's etc. without being frowned upon, or just not allowed.
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Re: proposes to require visas to countries requesting the same

Postby chi chi » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:00 pm

argidd wrote:Because most people would prefer to live in a poor neighborhood in Europe, then in the slums, pueblos jóvenes or cerros of Peru. Possibly because doing a minor/unskilled job you can have a bit of a better life, and even if you are discriminated upon, you will be allowed into public places, cinema's etc. without being frowned upon, or just not allowed.


Even if you make the minimum wage in Europe, you can still live comfortably.
And there's social security. If you lose your job, you get unemployment benefit, healthcare and education is almost free and you can get help with affordable housing.
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Re: proposes to require visas to countries requesting the same

Postby TShadow » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:45 pm

argidd wrote:Because most people would prefer to live in a poor neighborhood in Europe, then in the slums, pueblos jóvenes or cerros of Peru. Possibly because doing a minor/unskilled job you can have a bit of a better life, and even if you are discriminated upon, you will be allowed into public places, cinema's etc. without being frowned upon, or just not allowed.


A recent court order in Germany decided that even if your illegal you have all the rights to free healthcare, food and school for your children, and of course a place where to live.

On the other hand Bulgaria said that they will build a wall at their border to Turkey to avoid illegal immigrants. Also the Schengen countries will again introduce border controls for the same reason.
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Re: proposes to require visas to countries requesting the same

Postby chi chi » Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:20 pm

TShadow wrote:On the other hand Bulgaria said that they will build a wall at their border to Turkey to avoid illegal immigrants. Also the Schengen countries will again introduce border controls for the same reason.


Doesn't make sense, because they will go via another country.
You can't stop illegal immigrants, you can just delay them entering the country with those measures.
They will keep trying till they get in.

Same in the US. Many Mexicans got denied entry at the border. Some got over and got deported. But they keep trying till they get in. Many of them have been deported several times.

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