KenBE wrote:teamoperu wrote:It is much worse elsewhere:
That may or may not be true. The point is that a bunch of police robbing a restaurant is pretty bad and shocking.
gringolandia wrote:I don't feel safe here anymore, personally.
So many friends and family in Surco and La Molina, the two places I spend most of my time in Lima, have had their whole homes ransacked recently. And we've even had problems with drunk idiots waving guns around at the beach south of my beach house telling us rich folk to stay on our beach. Good times...
In a recent home invasion robbery in La Molina the thieves were overheard by the maid saying "if the family comes back shoot them." The family was only out to get some food so good thing the thieves were done and gone fast.
I went to the SITDEF gun show at the Pentagonito last week and made some good connections, so I'll be arranging for some increased safety shortly.
The comparisons to the US are a bit absurd I think. I feel perfectly safe walking around there. Granted, I don't spend much time in black neighborhoods. If I did my feelings of safety there might be a lot different. But the question was if *I* feel safe, and in the US I do. Actually too safe. I'd prefer a bit less safety and a bit more liberty.
gringolandia wrote:You can quote whatever statistics you feel are important to you. That doesn't change the fact that I don't have a single friend or family member who has been a victim of crime in the US in years. Not one.
Whereas in Lima I know four people and two homes that have been victimized in just the past six months.
So my personal experience is that crime here in Lima is way beyond anything in the US.
teamoperu wrote:Your personal experience is valid only for you, Charlie Brown with the cloud over your head. I have been robbed many more times in my home country than in Peru. My experience: In home country, 2 house break ins, 4 car breakins, 1 bike snatching and my home country is safer than the USA. Haven't been murdered there yet. In Peru, 1 cell phone snatch, no breakins, no violence. Oh yeah, they stole a potted plant outside my business once.
Tell me, you have not been robbed in Peru. Were you or family ever robbed in your home country... tell the truth.
teamoperu wrote:I know people in Peru who have never been robbed (yes, in the Sierras).
teamoperu wrote:Your personal experience is valid only for you, Charlie Brown with the cloud over your head.
gringolandia wrote:teamoperu wrote:Your personal experience is valid only for you, Charlie Brown with the cloud over your head.
You do see that this thread is "Do you feel danger when in the public now?", right?
So the fact that my personal experience is valid only for me is exactly what makes my post relevant to the topic. This is a subjective question and I gave a subjective answer.
I answer the question YES, and I am taking appropriate steps based on that. You certainly can answer the question differently from your own subjective view.
To attempt to answer the question objectively instead of subjectively (ie whether or not there really is significant danger) may be impossible as the level of danger faced by each person likely depends on factors that are specific to individuals (where you spend your time, what times you wander around in public, if you dress nicely or otherwise look wealthy, how careful you are, etc.).
However, that being said, I think the statistics at least show that the objective level of danger as measured by crime has increased significantly in Lima over the past few years. On a perhaps not entirely unrelated note, subjectively I did feel fairly safe here in 2006 when I visited Lima for the first time, but as of now I no longer do.
gringolandia wrote:I'm not even going to read your entire post as it sounds trollish from the very beginning. Have fun exploring it on your own.
gringolandia wrote:I really didn't read your whole post, and since you are clearly an attention seeking troll I have added you to my ignore list so I don't have to read any of your nonsense (except when others quote you).
ironchefchris wrote:Came across this article today. It'll most likely resonate with those who view the subject objectively rather than subjectively, though I'm not suggesting thinking/feeling one way is any more valid than the other. Interesting to note where Peru and the USA wind up on the list. First link is the article, second is the organization which it references, last is the map with rankings if you want to cut to the chase.
https://www.yahoo.com/travel/the-result ... 22177.html
http://www.visionofhumanity.org/#/page/ ... eace-index
http://static.visionofhumanity.org/site ... %20Map.pdf
windsportinperu wrote:Searching and linking bad news about USA and Canada could be offensive for expats who live in Peru.
Searching and linking bad news about Peru is offensive for me..
Let''s see this World from a positive point of view..
louis wrote:In January I remember reading some newspaper where extortion of bussinesses in Lima had increased by 50% over the same period from a year earlier. I don't remember which newspaper it was, but if that article is even remotely true, it would represent a massive increase in crime.
asgp wrote:Well........ The crime has raised, mainly in the VAST majority of districts in Lima, maybe Miraflores, Barranco and San Isidro scape this situation because of the tourism industry that lives there, police knows this and they won't allow crime go deeper there.
Residents of Latin America and the Caribbean were the least likely among all global regions last year to feel secure in their communities. In 2013, the region scored a 56 (on a scale from 0 to 100) on Gallup's Law and Order Index, which is based on confidence in local police, feelings of personal safety, and self-reported incidence of theft.
ironchefchris wrote:To some, the glass is always half full.
To others, half empty.
To an engineer, the glass is twice as large as it needs to be.
windsportinperu wrote:The robbery with the title “enjoy your ceviche” was a lack of respect and therefore was offensive
windsportinperu wrote:Let’s try to see our World from the bright sight.
Please do not overreact.. the 2 options a. and b. are wrong..
Option c) relax and forget it..
Fortunately have never been robbed, but also maintain a low profile about my wealth and life.
ironchefchris wrote:Have they started shooting up movie theaters yet?
27 de Julio del 2015 - 09:53
ironchefchris wrote:It sucks that discos get shot up. It seems more common than movie theaters, probably because of the alcohol and cocaine consumption that doesn't really happen in movie theaters where being drunk and coked up when you're encouraged to be quiet and still don't really go together.
KenBE wrote:teamoperu wrote:2010???
The robbery happened yesterday actually...27 de Julio del 2015 - 09:53
The shootings happened in 2010-2012.
Interesting....The day before yesterday I posted an answer in this thread....and yesterday another one. Meanwhile other users posted.
All these inputs disappeared.
Is you database corrupted?
As far as I can see even complete threads which were visible yesterday disappeared completly!