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Independent or lesser known films

Postby ironchefchris » Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:33 am

Just finished watching ‘Walker’ by Alex Cox who is best known for ‘Sid & Nancy’ and ‘Repo Man.’ Walker is an anachronistic and somewhat loose telling of the story of 19’th Century American filibuster William Walker who overthrew the Nicaraguan government and declared himself President. The movie, filmed during the Contra War, offered an interesting commentary (partially through the anachronisms) on the then current situation. I remember seeing it when it came out and that it was scathed by the critics, but it’s a very interesting film and is worth a watch if you like somewhat offbeat films or have an interest in US/Latin American history.

Seen anything lately you’d recommend, or something you haven’t seen in while worth another view?

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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby adrian Thorne » Tue Mar 17, 2015 1:27 pm

(2003) "Paloma de papel"
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Juan, a young man convicted of terrorism, is given amnesty from a Lima prison; he boards a bus to return home and, in his mind's eye, recalls events in his village near Huaraz when he was 10 or 12. His father is long dead, his mother lives with Fermin, secretly a sympathizer with the Communist guerrillas in the hills. Town leaders are assassinated at night. When Juan discovers Fermin's secret, Juan is spirited away to the guerrillas to learn Marxist slogans and how to fight. When the band decides to attack the town to avenge the death of a comrade, Juan must choose. There are no white hats on any side: critical thought without love of life bears no fruit, writes Erich Fromm. Written by <[email protected]>

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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby Slippery Jack » Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:18 pm

Withnail and I. Love it. As Bruce Robinson, the producer, describes it 'Two unemployed friends go on holiday and one comes back with a job.' It is a quote fest.

I also love Trainspotting. An everyday tale of heroin addicts in Edinburgh. The opening scene with Iggy Pop's Lust For Life blasting out is great. Anyone contemplating taking up a heroin habit should view this first. Highlights include Spud having a job interview on amphetamines so that he doesn't get the job so that he can remain on benefits.
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby victmanu » Thu Mar 19, 2015 9:38 pm

Sidney Lumet, dog day afternoon.
Sidney Lumet, The pawnbroker.
Breaking the waves, Lars Von trier.
Europa, Lars Von Trier.
Paranoid Park, Gus Van Sant.
Les savates du bon Dieu ,Jean-Claude Brisseau,
Two Lovers James Gray.
Paul Thomas Anderson,Boogie nights
Paul Thomas Anderson, Punch drunk love.
Michael hanneke, Amour.
David Cronnenberg, Naked Lunch.
David Cronnenberg, Crash.
Akira Kurosawa, Rashomon.
Akira Kurosawa, The seven samuráis.
Takeshi Kitano, Hana Bi.
Takeshi Kitano, Zatoichi.
more recommendations soon.
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Postby Alan » Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:10 pm

There is a Peruvian movie, Paraiso, that I really enjoyed. Unevenly acted and super low budget but which helps it come across with this incredible realism which makes it almost seem like a documentary. Really metaphorical story.

Thanks for opening this thread. Amazing that no-one has done it before.
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby victmanu » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:31 pm

Peruvian movies I appreciate.

Armando Robles Godoy- La muralla verde.
Armando Robles Godoy -Espejismo.
Fraqncisco Lombardi La ciudad y los perros
Francisco Lombardi Maruja en el infierno.
Francisco Lombardi La Boca del lobo.
Francisco Lombardi Bajo la piel.
Francisco Lombardi Tinta Roja.
Federico Guerra Garcia Laulico.
Rosario Garcia Montero Las malas intenciones.
Javier Fuentes Leon Contracorriente.
Josue mendez dias de Santiago
Claudia Llosa La teta asustada.

other interesting peruvian movies for historic facts.
Federico Guerra El caso Huayanay.
Federico Guerra Tupac Amaru.
Felipe Degregori Abisa a los compañeros.
Jorge Reyes La famlia Orozco.
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Postby ironchefchris » Sat Mar 21, 2015 3:29 pm

As a gringo I'm unfamiliar with many of the films listed in the last post. Where would be a good place to find them? Are many available on DVD?

I'll add to the above list.

Máncora - Ricardo de Montreuil
Amores Perros - Alejandro Gonzales Inarritu (and his other films)
The films of Pedro Almodóvar
The films of Alfonson Cuarón
... Satyajit Ray
John Cassavetes
Kurosawa (of course)
John Sayles
Jim Jarmusch
John Waters
Gus Van Sant
David Lynch
Sofia Coppola
Richard Linklater
Hard Eight - Paul Thomas Anderson
Wings of Desire - Wim Wenders
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby victmanu » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:08 pm

[quote="ironchefchris"]As a gringo I'm unfamiliar with many of the films listed in the last post. Where would be a good place to find them? Are many available on DVD?

You can find many of the movies I mentioned in Youtube but have not english subtitles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acbvtph ... u44c1cMAwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCT79BdF-tE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKDzg-eVhpk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLdhK7a9eDU


Or You can go to polvos azules pasaje 18 they specialize in classic movies of all countries check this documetary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNrGA6UqXS4
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby victmanu » Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:18 pm

Other movies I like .
Jean Luc Godard a bout de souffle.
Jean Luc Godard Pierre le Fou.
Jean Luc Godard une femme est une femme
Jean Luc Godard Alphaville.
Michelangelo Antonioni the passenger,
Michelangelo Antonioni Blow up
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby Slippery Jack » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:31 am

The Draughtman's Contract.

Mr. Neville (Anthony Higgins), a brash young draftsman, is hired to make 12 landscape illustrations at the estate of Mr. Herbert (Dave Hill) and his wife (Janet Suzman). Aside from monetary compensation, the arrangement includes a sexual liaison offered to Neville by Mrs. Herbert while her estranged husband is away. But when the murdered body of Mr. Herbert is discovered at the estate, mysterious clues found in Neville's drawings point to the identity of the killer.

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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby Slippery Jack » Tue Mar 24, 2015 2:35 am

The thief, his wife, and her lover the cook.

When churlish mobster Albert Spica (Michael Gambon) acquires an upscale French restaurant in London, he dines there nightly, effectively scaring off the clientele with his bad manners. His wife, Georgina (Helen Mirren), is especially disgusted by him, and soon begins an affair with another restaurant guest, Michael (Alan Howard). Despite their efforts to keep it a secret, however, Spica finds out about their trysts, and he plans to exact a terrible revenge.
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby victmanu » Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:05 am

Wes Anderson Welcome to the dollhouse.
Wes Anderson The grand hotel Budapest.
Wes Anderson Rushmore.
Ethan & John Coen Miller's crossing.
Ethan & John Coen Raising Arizona.
Ethan & John Coen No country for old men.
Andrei Tarkowski Solaris
Andrei Tarkowski Nostalgia.
Andrei Tarkowski Stalker.
Bernardo Bertolucci 1900
Bernardo Bertolucci La Luna.
Bernardo Bertolucci The last emperor.
Alan Resnais Hiroshima mon amour.
Alan Resnais Last year in Marienbad.
Claude Chabrol La Ceremonie.
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby Sergio Bernales » Wed Mar 25, 2015 10:54 am

L'Atalante by Jean Vigo is marvellous and almost anything by Luis Buñuel, especially the Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoise is magnificent. And agree with Victmanu that Tarkovsy's Solaris is a superior film to its American cousin. As for Kurosawa and all those films remade as Westerns, love 'em all.
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby Slippery Jack » Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:24 am

No Country For Old Men - you beat me to it!

How about Killer Joe...

A cop (Matthew McConaughey) who moonlights as a hit man agrees to kill the hated mother of a desperate drug dealer (Emile Hirsch) in exchange for a tumble with the young man's virginal sister (Juno Temple). It doesn't go well.


And when you mention the Coen brothers, how about Fargo? Great film. Except for Margie (The policewoman detective) all of the characters take the wrong decision at every point.

Also, I'm surprised that nobody has suggested The Big Lebowski.
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Postby Sergio Bernales » Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:16 pm

For the sake of balance regarding Zulu...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3x6RPJOkTs
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby victmanu » Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:39 pm

Almost everybody have seen the Big Lebowsky is one of the most popular movies of the last years of XX century and the beginning of this century, great movie.

Luis Buñuel is a genious.
Movies I like the most.
Viridiana,
The chien anadaluz.
El angel exterminador.
Los olvidados.
Ese obscuro objeto del deseo.
El discreto encanto de la burguesía.

Sam Peckinpah
Straw dogs.
The wild Bunch.
Bring me the head of Alfredo Garcia.

Stanley Kubrick.
The Killings.
Dr. Strangelove or how I .........
Barry lyndon.

Anthony Richardson- Tom Jones.

Lindsay Anderson:
If
O lucky man.

Karel Reisz -- The french Lieutenat's woman.

Joseph Losey :
The servant.
The Go-between.
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby Slippery Jack » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:06 pm

OK, here is a right weird one....

The Night Porter (1974),
After a chance meeting at a hotel in 1957, a Holocaust survivor and the Nazi officer who tortured her resume their sadomasochistic relationship.

Director: Liliana Cavani
Stars: Dirk Bogarde, Charlotte Rampling, Philippe Leroy
I haven't seen this in decades, but definitely worth a look.

Has anyone seen this one before?
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby victmanu » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:52 pm

Friederidch Murnau:
Nosferatu.
Sunrise : a song of two humans.
Tabu.

Jean Cocteau
La belle et la Bête.
Orphee.

Jean Vigo --Zéro de conduite.

Jean Renoir --La Grande Ilusion.

Rene Clair-- Sous les toits de parís.

Henri-George Clouzot
Le salaire de la peur
Manon.

Robert Bresson.
Mouchette.
Pickpocket.

Carl Th. Dreyer:
The passion of Joan of Arc.
Days of Wrath.

Sergei Eisenstein.
The battleship Potemkim.
October.
Alexander Nevski.
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby victmanu » Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:55 pm

Slippery Jack wrote:OK, here is a right weird one....

The Night Porter (1974),
After a chance meeting at a hotel in 1957, a Holocaust survivor and the Nazi officer who tortured her resume their sadomasochistic relationship.

Director: Liliana Cavani
Stars: Dirk Bogarde, Charlotte Rampling, Philippe Leroy
I haven't seen this in decades, but definitely worth a look.

Has anyone seen this one before?

Yes I did, great movie Charlotte Rampling in her best role and Dirk Bogarde also acted very good.
I have seen Madonna performances trying to imitate the charácter of Charlotte Rampling in that movie..
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby victmanu » Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:10 pm

Bob Fosse:
Lenny.
Cabaret.
All that jazz.

Hal Ashby:
Bound of glory.
Coming home.
Being There.
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby ironchefchris » Wed Mar 25, 2015 8:31 pm

Bernado Bertolucci - 'The Conformist'
Films by Terrence Malick
Orson Welles last film - 'F for Fake'
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Re: Independent or lesser known films

Postby Sergio Bernales » Fri Mar 27, 2015 1:06 pm

victmanu wrote:Friederidch Murnau:
Nosferatu.
Sunrise : a song of two humans.
Tabu.

Jean Cocteau
La belle et la Bête.
Orphee.

Jean Vigo --Zéro de conduite.

Jean Renoir --La Grande Ilusion.

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If you're a fan of Renoir and liked La Grande Ilusion, you'd love The rules of the Game, La Règle du jeu, in which Renoir also acts, probably my favourite Renoir film. A few other favourites The Crime of Monsieur Lange, Le Crime de Monsieur Lange. Boudu Saved From Drowning, Boudu sauvé des eaux, where the great Michel Simon, who played Pere Jules in L'Atalante, is a tramp who is rescued from a suicide attempt by a kindly bookseller and adopted and given a place to live by his family, but Boudu turns the sedate bookseller's house to chaos with his anarchic lifestyle and seduction of the women of the household. Great film.

Also if you ever get a chance to visit the Everyman Cinema in Hampstead, that's where the world premier of Zero de Conduite was and they had, at least several years ago, lots of 1930s original posters and memorabilia on the wall. It was there in the early '90s, that I first saw in a double bill in with "If" by the late Lindsay Anderson, who then gave a talk afterwards about Vigo's influence on his work. Fantastic.

Anderson claimed the black and white moments in "If" were inspired by Brecht's idea of distancing or alienation effect to make the audience more objective, although I later read the real reason was the film's budget was running out and they could only afford black and white film.

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