Adoption in Peru?

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Adoption in Peru?

Postby woodchuck » Thu Mar 29, 2018 6:31 am

My Peruvian wife & I are considering adopting here in Peru.
Have any expats gone this route & how did things turn out?
How will this affect my Social Security?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Happy Easter to all!


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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby 69roadrunner » Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:31 am

Nice try but if you are looking for a positive affect forget it, dependent benefits only go to American dependents. Otherwise there is no affect.
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby woodchuck » Thu Mar 29, 2018 12:24 pm

Once we legally adopt, doesn't the child become an American dependent?
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby 69roadrunner » Thu Mar 29, 2018 4:56 pm

Nope. If you are looking to beef up your SS you got to get a kid that is your own, space them out, to be sure their benefits do not cut out before you kick the bucket.
TupacPeru is the expert. Contact him.
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby woodchuck » Sat Mar 31, 2018 8:13 am

We have Peruvian friends that live in Ayacucho.
They tell us the adoption process is complicated & expensive.
All we are looking to do is offer a good home to a needy child or two.
Our friends tell us there are many needy children in Ayacucho; it is one of the poorest areas of Peru.
They suggest making a formal arrangement with the parents to take care of the child.
That would work for us as we don't seek any financial reward, only offering/sharring our love & good fortune.
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby samthesham » Sun Apr 01, 2018 12:42 pm

This sounds suspicious. You're going to Ayacucho on a "honeymoon" then ask about adopting children up there???
There has to be some financial angle involved.
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby woodchuck » Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:47 am

NONE!
We want to "give back" to the less fortunate children of Peru & my wife wants a duaghter.
I am too old to be raising a baby; what is suspicious about that?
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby samthesham » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:40 am

You asked "once we legally adopt, doesn't the child become an American dependent?"
Then you asked how will this affect your Social Security?
Finally, you mentioned making formal arrangement with the parents to take care of the child.
What is a formal arrangement?
According to Google (fine search tool I highly recommend to everyone), the definition of formal arrangement
1a : belonging to or constituting the form or essence of a thing formal cause
b : relating to or involving the outward form, structure, relationships, or arrangement of elements rather than content formal logic a formal style of painting a formal approach to comparative linguistics.
versus an informal arrangement which generally
include all arrangements that are not legally enforceable.
So you're looking to finagle the parents who are probably illiterate into a legally enforceable formal arrangement.
So how much will this legally enforceable formal arrangement cost the parents?

Sorry Charlie but this IS suspicious.
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby Alpineprince » Thu Apr 05, 2018 2:16 pm

woodchuck wrote:My Peruvian wife & I are considering adopting here in Peru.
Have any expats gone this route & how did things turn out?
How will this affect my Social Security?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Happy Easter to all!

You should also be aware that if you are married to a Peruvian and have not lived in the USA as a couple for 5 years, She is not entitled to your benefits if you pre-decease her.
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby jumpinjack » Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:05 am

woodchuck wrote:My Peruvian wife & I are considering adopting here in Peru.
Have any expats gone this route & how did things turn out?
How will this affect my Social Security?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Happy Easter to all!

In what way would you think your Social Security be affected?
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby Alpineprince » Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:26 am

jumpinjack wrote:
woodchuck wrote:My Peruvian wife & I are considering adopting here in Peru.
Have any expats gone this route & how did things turn out?
How will this affect my Social Security?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Happy Easter to all!

In what way would you think your Social Security be affected?


Example:
I am 65,my Wife is 37 and I have two children 3 and 12.
Under SS rules, I collect $x,xxx.xx, my children also collect $x,xxx.xx combined. Also if my wife had lived in the USA for 5 years as my wife, she would be entitled to collect $xxx.xx until my youngest child turned 16.

The total amount is subject to a Family maximum not to exceed 180% of your FRA benefit.
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby jumpinjack » Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:37 am

Alpineprince wrote:
jumpinjack wrote:
woodchuck wrote:My Peruvian wife & I are considering adopting here in Peru.
Have any expats gone this route & how did things turn out?
How will this affect my Social Security?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Happy Easter to all!

In what way would you think your Social Security be affected?


Example:
I am 65,my Wife is 37 and I have two children 3 and 12.
Under SS rules, I collect $x,xxx.xx, my children also collect $x,xxx.xx combined. Also if my wife had lived in the USA for 5 years as my wife, she would be entitled to collect $xxx.xx until my youngest child turned 16.

The total amount is subject to a Family maximum not to exceed 180% of your FRA benefit.

That's nice but I was asking Woodchuck how he thinks adoption would affect his Social Security.
Thanks anyway.
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby Lloyd007 » Wed May 02, 2018 1:57 pm

The adoption process in Peru is FREE and is run from a house by MIMP authority in Miraflores, on Av. Benavides.

I know because I did it. Here's some more recent info, although it is in spanish https://www.mimp.gob.pe/homemimp/direcc ... na-dga.php

However, I should mention that they put you through a lot tests and interviews to weed out those with incorrect intentions.

Telephone Telf.: (511) 626-1600
Av. Benavides 1155, Miraflores (Lima 18)
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Re: Adoption in Peru?

Postby woodchuck » Thu May 03, 2018 6:58 am

Good to hear from you Lloyd.
How is your adopted son doing; is his still pursuing the food/restaurant area of interest?
Enjoy your day.

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