Sergio Bernales wrote:If you're bothered what people think, then your best approach is to say nothing. Peruvians, in my experience, are very respectful of privacy and will not stick their noses into your living arrangements. Being completely open about your lifestyle, however, can perhaps lead to problems with some people. That's not to say there aren't open-minded and tolerant people here, but when coming to a new country, especially in South America, it's generally best to get to know people and get familiar with your surroundings.
lolapls wrote:To be perfectly honest, we aren't really super open about it. It's our life and we live fine as we are. No hay agendas hereburt we do need to tell he roommates or people we are renting from, so that's the main issue here. Will people actually come up with an excuse to rent us a place if they know we are two girls?
Thanks for your comment!
caliguy wrote:maybe it's because i am all over Lima, in the good parts and bad. i've seen lots of gay people here. in my observation, they are not frowned upon. i would imagine 2 girls are more acceptable for roomies than 2 guys.
19naia wrote:My first destination in Peru, after landing in Lima, was Iquitos.. I ended up walking into the Belem dirty market area.. I stumbled across an area of hair dressers who all seemed to be men expressed in very feminine form.. I would trust them to do my hair any day, if i ever did my hair..
They all took interest in me ,calling me over to join them.. I just looked over at them and stopped enough to be nice to them and give some greetings... An entire area of the market full of people like that and they dominated that part of the market.. Straight people would be the odd ones out in that part![]()
Trujillo area ended up being easier and no problems like the Iquitos crowd warned....
Back on topic, Its Good to go tour the local market in your area and the places you would be hanging out at, and look out for people that would be able to tell you about the LGBT scene in the area and how they manage and what challenges they face... They are out there in every viable city and looking to connect and support others like them in finding a safe niche...
chi chi wrote:19naia wrote:My first destination in Peru, after landing in Lima, was Iquitos.. I ended up walking into the Belem dirty market area.. I stumbled across an area of hair dressers who all seemed to be men expressed in very feminine form.. I would trust them to do my hair any day, if i ever did my hair..
They all took interest in me ,calling me over to join them.. I just looked over at them and stopped enough to be nice to them and give some greetings... An entire area of the market full of people like that and they dominated that part of the market.. Straight people would be the odd ones out in that part![]()
Trujillo area ended up being easier and no problems like the Iquitos crowd warned....
Back on topic, Its Good to go tour the local market in your area and the places you would be hanging out at, and look out for people that would be able to tell you about the LGBT scene in the area and how they manage and what challenges they face... They are out there in every viable city and looking to connect and support others like them in finding a safe niche...
Tabalosos is probably the gay capital of Peru. It's a small city located somewhere along the carretera between Tarapoto and Moyobamba and is home to more tan 14000 gay men.
teamoperu wrote:chi chi wrote:
Tabalosos is probably the gay capital of Peru. It's a small city located somewhere along the carretera between Tarapoto and Moyobamba and is home to more tan 14000 gay men.
Link? Proof? If you cannot prove it is not believable, given the many falsehoods you have posted.
Add: A quick search: Wiki
Tabalosos is a district. Population • Total 12,427, but it has 14000 gay men and no other LGBTQ?
Followthesun wrote:Back on topic - please!
I feel it is just good manners to advise any landlord of the situation.
If they do not approve, probably better that you did not enter into an arrangement with them.
I had rental property in the US and never had an issue with two women sharing a room or unit.
Actually, they were my best tenants as they were respectful and kept the place spotless.
Best wishes
chi chi wrote:teamoperu wrote:chi chi wrote:
Tabalosos is probably the gay capital of Peru. It's a small city located somewhere along the carretera between Tarapoto and Moyobamba and is home to more tan 14000 gay men.
Link? Proof? If you cannot prove it is not believable, given the many falsehoods you have posted.
Add: A quick search: Wiki
Tabalosos is a district. Population • Total 12,427, but it has 14000 gay men and no other LGBTQ?
Here are your links:
http://gawker.com/5862134/peruvian-tap- ... arns-mayor
http://www.hispanicallyspeakingnews.com ... yor/12044/
lolapls wrote:Followthesun wrote:Back on topic - please!
I feel it is just good manners to advise any landlord of the situation.
If they do not approve, probably better that you did not enter into an arrangement with them.
I had rental property in the US and never had an issue with two women sharing a room or unit.
Actually, they were my best tenants as they were respectful and kept the place spotless.
Best wishes
Yes, that's the main reason I would like to let them know. Not as in "hello I'm gay" and hung a pride flag, but as in "we only need one room" kind of situation.
We really do like a clean and organised space to live!![]()
I can't wait to start looking for a place! Thanks for the answers. I'll definitely going to inform the landlords and avoid an issue from the start.
Followthesun wrote:Teamoperu,
Why do you consider advising the landlord of the situation - bad advice?
Do you want to see these young women evicted after the landlord is furious?
Is this the bad advice or that it comes from me???
teamoperu wrote:Followthesun wrote:Teamoperu,
Why do you consider advising the landlord of the situation - bad advice?
Do you want to see these young women evicted after the landlord is furious?
Is this the bad advice or that it comes from me???
People are funny. I get the sense she wants to declare her LBGTQ status to a potential landlord, got a wave of advice that is is not necessary, then decided to follow your post. Because it said what she wanted to hear. People are funny that way, me included. We like advice that confirms what we want to hear and discount advice when it counters it.
Why do I think she is following the wrong advice? Lots of good opinions about that above. But since you asked... hmmm
Firstly because my intuition tells me that. I am highly intuitive, beyond normal, and have learned to listen to my intuition. People like me with a highly developed sense of intuition will nod knowingly when I state this, but people without will rightly doubt it.
It is no ones business but hers.
It is very common for girls to live together here, sharing the costs. Sisters, aunts, other relatives, friends etc. No one would raise a second thought about it. Lots of young women with different names live together in a small departmento here. Someone needing to forewarn me about their LGTBQ preference would raise my suspicions more than someone saying nothing.
When I do a business transaction like renting a departmento I do not normally declare my religion, my politics, my sexuality. Unless it would somehow be to my advantage. Like: I see you are a bible thumping religious nutcase, just like me, can I rent your apartment?
This scenario comes to me: Hi, I want to rent your apartment, but it will only be me alone because I prefer to masturbate than have a partner? I see no difference. Just too much unnecessary information.
lolapls wrote:teamoperu wrote:Followthesun wrote:Teamoperu,
Why do you consider advising the landlord of the situation - bad advice?
Do you want to see these young women evicted after the landlord is furious?
Is this the bad advice or that it comes from me???
People are funny. I get the sense she wants to declare her LBGTQ status to a potential landlord, got a wave of advice that is is not necessary, then decided to follow your post. Because it said what she wanted to hear. People are funny that way, me included. We like advice that confirms what we want to hear and discount advice when it counters it.
Why do I think she is following the wrong advice? Lots of good opinions about that above. But since you asked... hmmm
Firstly because my intuition tells me that. I am highly intuitive, beyond normal, and have learned to listen to my intuition. People like me with a highly developed sense of intuition will nod knowingly when I state this, but people without will rightly doubt it.
It is no ones business but hers.
It is very common for girls to live together here, sharing the costs. Sisters, aunts, other relatives, friends etc. No one would raise a second thought about it. Lots of young women with different names live together in a small departmento here. Someone needing to forewarn me about their LGTBQ preference would raise my suspicions more than someone saying nothing.
When I do a business transaction like renting a departmento I do not normally declare my religion, my politics, my sexuality. Unless it would somehow be to my advantage. Like: I see you are a bible thumping religious nutcase, just like me, can I rent your apartment?
This scenario comes to me: Hi, I want to rent your apartment, but it will only be me alone because I prefer to masturbate than have a partner? I see no difference. Just too much unnecessary information.
I don't think you need a highly developed sense of intuion to know that humans like to get confirmations more than different advice to what they have asked. I was just thinking about it in the morning and I accepted an advice that pretty much said "yes it'll be fine if you tell them".
Thankfully, we don't have to say all about us when renting an apartment. And although I'm the first person to be against the whole 'say you're lgbtq beforehand' kind of life, when it comes to a conservative country where I would like to spend some months living safe and in peace with my partner., I like to know it isn't a bad idea to tell theowners of the house... Come on, I have to let them know I only need one bed so paying for two would be a waste of money. It isn't a big deal, and I am not trying to throw my pride on people's faces, but it's an important fact when it comes to rent, isn't it?
So yeah tl;dr I accepted the 'bad advice' because it didn't miss the point of my question and because it was supporting what I felt I wanted to do in the first place.
Next time I have a question, I can state I just need confirmation if that'll make it easier for you to decide if you'd like to comment or not. However, thank you for taking the time to post your suggestion.
Followthesun wrote:Lola and partner,
Honesty is always the best policy in life
If I or my Peruvian gf can help you in an way once your arrive in Peru, it would be our pleasure to do so.
Best wishes for safe travel and in your many years together as a couple.
chi chi wrote:Landlords are more interested in your ability to pay the rent and that you will look well after their property than your sexual orientation.
lolapls wrote:chi chi wrote:Landlords are more interested in your ability to pay the rent and that you will look well after their property than your sexual orientation.
Yes, I understand. This is exactly what I would say to someone like me asking this, however (as I believe I have said already) I want to be able to rent ONE room for TWO girls with ONE bed. I don't think paying for two beds is any smart just to avoid telling them about my sexual orientation.
I guess I could ask better this time and say: Would I get in trouble with a landlord in Lima if I rent a room, but two people live in it? I don't think this is honest since the use of water of two people is obviously higher the only one, same with electricity (laptops/phones), etc. So what are your experiences, if any, about a situation like this?
Thank you all for continuing commenting here!
amigorick wrote:In Iquitos it would be a problem. Renting a room with 2 tenants is more expensive than one.
chi chi wrote:amigorick wrote:In Iquitos it would be a problem. Renting a room with 2 tenants is more expensive than one.
In Tarapoto, clean and big rooms are very affordable.
It's also very easy to find a room. Tarapoto has loads of students. Sharing a rooms won't be a problem. Many (poor) students rent a room together.
Zosimus wrote:I would say, first of all, that I doubt anyone cares whether you are lesbians. I have been on the Metropolitano and seen girls together, holding hands, and obviously a couple. The same thing often happens at el Puente de Suspiros. No one paid them any mind.
However, I do think the landlord might be concerned about any situation that might raise the cost of utility bills, especially if those bills are included in the rent. For example, while my wife and I were separated, she came to visit me several weekends and brought the kids as well. The landlord immediately complained about increased electricity and water usage.
I don't think it's necessary to reveal intimate details of your living arrangements, but if it affects the landlord's bottom line, he or she will definitely squawk.