fanning wrote:
But now the law is more clear, and really LIMITS it to 183 days in any 365 period.
chante wrote:Ok - let's see if I understand this. We're Canadian snowbirds who come to Peru every January to April, no problem under the old rule of 183 days in a calendar year as we come January to April. But, under the new law when we come again in January we have been in Peru 4 months or 118 days (since January 2015) so we would only get 65 days, is this correct? Really frustrating and maybe we need to check out other countries that retain the 183 days in a calendar year law.
JanD wrote:this indeed has serious consequences for quite a lot of people, already living here for years on a tourist visa!
What practical options do they have?
Artículo 27.- Salvoconductos para Extranjeros Es potestad del Estado peruano expedir salvoconducto para los extranjeros que se encuentren en el territorio nacional, en condición de apátridas, indocumentados o por razones humanitarias, que no cuenten con representación ni protección diplomática o consular en el país, otorgamiento que se efectúa de acuerdo con las normas o los instrumentos internacionales de los que el Perú es parte. La expedición de este salvoconducto está a cargo de MIGRACIONES.
58.1. Los extranjeros en la calidad migratoria de residentes provisionales pierden su calidad y categoría migratorias si el periodo de ausencia del territorio nacional es mayor a los ciento ochenta y tres (183) días consecutivos.
Los Extranjeros altamente calificados: Aquellos extranjeros que cuentan con conocimiento o experiencia específica, altamente calificados, conforme a los criterios aprobados por el Estado peruano.
gringito wrote:
If (…) the Residencia Permanente will require, for example, a certain minimum amount of monthly income, for example 3500,- Soles per month, several foreigners, including foreign spouses of Peruvian citizens, may not be able to fulfil this requirement and “fall into the trap”.
vallepm wrote:Wait, people care about this? Like you guys are presumably North American (Europeans are more well traveled so they have higher expectations and a tendency to pick someplace more livable than Perú, no offense). I love this country, and have lived here for close to 12 years, but seriously, is it worth sacrificing your career and everything else for people that are your friends or lovers simply because you are the" gringo?" Because at the end of the day, 99% of Peruvians would not date or be seen with you if you were just another paisano. Cheers. -Matteo
JJG1133 wrote:vallepm wrote:Wait, people care about this? Like you guys are presumably North American (Europeans are more well traveled so they have higher expectations and a tendency to pick someplace more livable than Perú, no offense). I love this country, and have lived here for close to 12 years, but seriously, is it worth sacrificing your career and everything else for people that are your friends or lovers simply because you are the" gringo?" Because at the end of the day, 99% of Peruvians would not date or be seen with you if you were just another paisano. Cheers. -Matteo
Idiotic comment... Depending on how you value your true friendships or lovers (I'm assuming you mean long term girlfriends or wives) then yes it's worth it, and yes it's worth caring about. Remember not all North Americans or Europeans have the same views as what you think. Just as not all Peruvians are the same. I think you're a little bit upset because 99% of Peruvians wouldn't date you! But the reason that other nationalities are appealing to them is because it's a fact we treat women better than you do. Cheers to you too.
mammamia wrote:gringito wrote:
If (…) the Residencia Permanente will require, for example, a certain minimum amount of monthly income, for example 3500,- Soles per month, several foreigners, including foreign spouses of Peruvian citizens, may not be able to fulfil this requirement and “fall into the trap”.
I don't think they will implement that regulation for foreign spouses of Peruvian citizens. That doesn't make sense. Just like you said, many foreigners wouldn't be able to fulfill the income requirement but that doesn't mean they would have to leave the country and their loved ones just because they earn less than $3500 a month. Probably, the minimum income requirement will apply to holders of other types of immigrant visas (rentistas, investors, etc.) but not to familiares de Peruanos. On the contrary, the familiares will only benefit from the new law: no headache renewing the carnet annually, no TAE stickers, etc...
Más beneficios:
De la misma manera, la norma establece la prórroga anual migratoria, es decir, facilita al familiar residente una residencia provisional por dos años, que al mes 21 puede cambiar a permanente si la solicita.
"Antes, el familiar extranjero tenía que renovar y prorrogar su calidad migratoria de familiar residente cada año, ahora ya no", refirió. Vignolo aclaró que esta norma se implementará por etapas y que entrará en vigencia por partes.
TShadow wrote:
Agree with your thinking, but I also don't forget that we're in Peru where things very often are working out differently.
What is for sure however is that until the new TUPA 2016 will be issued, we are only speculating about the requirements.
mammamia wrote:gringito wrote:
If (…) the Residencia Permanente will require, for example, a certain minimum amount of monthly income, for example 3500,- Soles per month, several foreigners, including foreign spouses of Peruvian citizens, may not be able to fulfil this requirement and “fall into the trap”.
I don't think they will implement that regulation for foreign spouses of Peruvian citizens. That doesn't make sense. Just like you said, many foreigners wouldn't be able to fulfill the income requirement but that doesn't mean they would have to leave the country and their loved ones just because they earn less than $3500 a month. Probably, the minimum income requirement will apply to holders of other types of immigrant visas (rentistas, investors, etc.) but not to familiares de Peruanos. On the contrary, the familiares will only benefit from the new law: no headache renewing the carnet annually, no TAE stickers, etc...
fanning wrote:What a NONSENSE
If you want to legally proof you paid anything as an employer, the only way would be by using something 'bancarizada' ( like a cheque NO NEGOCIABLE or a transfer to an account of your employee ). Also you need to use Plame and Sunat to show the payments made, including payments to ONP/AFP and EsSalud.
Also you can only pay 30 % of your salary to foreigners etc. etc.
You are just speculating
Alan wrote:I was told by SUNAFIL recently that the proof they value the most is a signed boleta de pago.
jnehlig wrote:I am planning on moving to Peru to look for work as an EFL teacher. One of the reasons I had chosen Peru is because it seemed easy to just come and work illegally on a tourist visa. Does anyone think that the new law will change this? Would employers still hire you if they knew that you would only be able to stay in the country for 6 months?
AncientAlien wrote:lol, no, it wont change that dont worry.
Andywalters wrote:I can tell you that I just got back from a border hop to Chile. Firstly found out the hard way that you´re not supposed to get a taxi to the border, only collectivos or buses. Secondly, I had no problems, I had used all 183 days this year up until 3 Dec but after looking at me with a wry smile and me explaining that I needed it to apply for a permanent visa now that I am married (which is true but he didn´t know that) he asked me ´how many days´ I asked for 60, stamp done, chau!