sunflower wrote:Honestly, I have read mentioned article and just scanned the new law as well and don't get it. For years now there have been temporal visas and residential visas; seems to me this isn't new, the process / execution / timeframes might differ. I don't get the part about volunteering. Peru never had a volunteer visa in the last years, volunteers would come to the country on a tourist visa which means they could stay up to 183 days. In parts the new law seems to me quite superficial. As jhand8app4 already stated there are other regulations still missing; so to evaluate the real changes we have to wait until these are published. I'm curios if this new law becomes effective in March.
sunflower wrote:I absolutely agree with you. I never understood why it is ok and no big deal for North Americans or Europeans to overstay their visa or work without the appropriate visa in Peru while back home they considered those people illegals and everyone wants to get rid of them.
asgp wrote:I've got that too, so border hoppin' is dead.
1231231231 wrote:Because they are from more wealthy countries and usually are more rich/educated and are not here to work illegally, So most of the time they contribute but not take up jobs/resources.
1231231231 wrote:I will leave Peru in 10 days and will return in 2 months, I will too bring bank statements with me so I can convince them I am not poor.
sunflower wrote:1231231231 wrote:Because they are from more wealthy countries and usually are more rich/educated and are not here to work illegally, So most of the time they contribute but not take up jobs/resources.
So if you are coming from a rich country and contribute to the economy you are allowed to break the laws of your host country? Not sure if US authorities for example feel the same if a wealthy Peruvian overstays his welcome in the US or works illegally. And if you haven't noticed, the poor contribute as well to a countries economy.1231231231 wrote:I will leave Peru in 10 days and will return in 2 months, I will too bring bank statements with me so I can convince them I am not poor.
I'm out of words. That's not only arrogant, conceited and supercilious, but also rather stupid (showing off your wealth even with immigration or police is never a good idea).
We in your opinion better educated foreigners should rather set good examples and follow the laws of the country we were lucky enough to being allowed to stay.
Just my to cents.
sunflower wrote:Border hopping was never officially allowed or forbidden. The old law (sorry can't remember the number) allowed tourist to stay 183 days in the country leaving open if this is per year or per visit. This vagueness of the law made border hopping in Peru possible, neither really legal nor illegal. Then in September 2015 a new immigration law was published stating 183 days per period of 365 days. This law was never 100% enforced. And now we have the new law that as well writes 183 days within a period of 365 days.
sunflower wrote:Border hopping was never officially allowed or forbidden. The old law (sorry can't remember the number) allowed tourist to stay 183 days in the country leaving open if this is per year or per visit. This vagueness of the law made border hopping in Peru possible, neither really legal nor illegal.
Artículo VII.- Principio de no criminalización de la migración irregular
El Estado formula y ejecuta su política migratoria bajo el principio de no criminalización de la migración irregular.
Artículo 35º.- Situación migratoria irregular
La situación migratoria irregular es el estado en que incurre el extranjero en los siguientes supuestos:
a. Cuando ha vencido el plazo de permanencia otorgado por la Autoridad Migratoria correspondiente en la Calidad Migratoria asignada y permanece en el territorio nacional.
b. Cuando ha ingresado al territorio nacional sin haber realizado el control migratorio.
Artículo 36º.- Regularización migratoria
Los extranjeros que se encuentren en situación migratoria irregular, pueden solicitar el levantamiento de su impedimento de ingreso y/o regularizar su situación de conformidad con las disposiciones que se dicten en el Reglamento
Artículo 56º.- Multa a extranjeros
Son conductas infractoras pasibles de multas a los extranjeros, las siguientes:
a. El exceso de permanencia al momento de salir del país.
b. En caso de más de una nacionalidad, utilizarlas indistintamente para el ingreso, permanencia o salida del territorio nacional.
c. Por no actualizar la información contenida en el carné de extranjería.
d. Por no pagar las tasas que corresponda.
e. Por no solicitar la prórroga de la Visa dentro del plazo de su vigencia.
f. Por realizar actividades que no corresponden a la Calidad Migratoria, Visa o Permiso asignado o desnaturalizarla.
Artículo 57º.- Salida obligatoria del país
57.1. Son situaciones pasibles de disponer la salida obligatoria del país de los extranjeros, las siguientes:
a. Por encontrarse en situación migratoria irregular por ingresar al país sin realizar el control migratorio y no haber solicitado su regularización.
b. Por encontrarse en situación migratoria irregular por exceder el tiempo de permanencia otorgado y no haber solicitado su regularización en el plazo fijado por el reglamento.
c. Por incumplir o contravenir las normas imperativas en materia de salud pública.
d. Por haber sido sancionado por conducta infractora grave o muy grave en materia ambiental, por la autoridad competente.
sunflower wrote:Border hopping was never officially allowed or forbidden. The old law (sorry can't remember the number) allowed tourist to stay 183 days in the country leaving open if this is per year or per visit. This vagueness of the law made border hopping in Peru possible, neither really legal nor illegal. Then in September 2015 a new immigration law was published stating 183 days per period of 365 days. This law was never 100% enforced. And now we have the new law that as well writes 183 days within a period of 365 days.
craig wrote:Disappointing to the sensibilities of Europeans and USians this will probably not entail execution.
asgp wrote:sunflower wrote:Border hopping was never officially allowed or forbidden. The old law (sorry can't remember the number) allowed tourist to stay 183 days in the country leaving open if this is per year or per visit. This vagueness of the law made border hopping in Peru possible, neither really legal nor illegal. Then in September 2015 a new immigration law was published stating 183 days per period of 365 days. This law was never 100% enforced. And now we have the new law that as well writes 183 days within a period of 365 days.
Perfectly said.. The law you mention is Ley General de Migraciones (1991)...
sunflower wrote:I wasn't talking about the 1991 law. There have been changes in between, probably not by law but by decreto or whatsoever. Probably ten years back you only got 90 days when arriving and then could extent your tourist visa at then called DIGEMIN (today Migraciones). Then in 2008 or so the rule 90 days and 3 times extensions were changed for up to 183 days upon arrival without the possibility of extension of the tourist visa.
1231231231 wrote:I have some tricks: Look which officer is the most easy before entering the waiting line, if you say you stay little more then 3 months they will give you 6 in my experience they give 3 or 6 nothing else. and look well dressed. and in my experience they are more easy in the airport then at the land borders
Florian-kun wrote:With the Immigration Changes will it be more easy for the Children of Peruvians Over the Age of 18 to get the Peruvian Citizenship ?
cariboso wrote:She will need a Special Travel Permisson to leave Peru. Otherwise her application is subject to cancelation
mickd wrote:Perhaps this may be of help to you. I arrived in Lima a couple of days ago, and asked for 90 days, and was given 120, I explained that I wanted 90, as I would be coming back in September for another 90 days, and that with him giving me 120 days now, I could only come for 63 days, he said this is incorrect, 120 days now, when I leave my passport will show I have been here for only 70 days so I would still have 113 days left that I can use for the year. I was also told at Lima airport that they only give 120 days and not the 90 I asked for.
It would seem therefore that you can fly in and out of Lima as many times as you like as long as your total stay in Peru does not exceed 183 days.
Milena wrote:
But now the German Foreign Office updated the website about Peru and stated that the new law limited the tourist visa stay to a maximum of 90 days in 6 months, that would be too less for my stay.
If I understood it right, you're all talking about that the new law still admits 183 days. Is that valid also for Germany? Where can I find the law or for which countries it is valid? I'm asking that because as I mentioned the German Foreign Office stated that the new law does not allow 183 days like before but only 90 days in 6 months.
Milena wrote:@ sasha_art, thank you very much for your help! I will follow your advice with the refundable ticket!
The idea of border hopping to Bolivia or Chile will not be possible for me, right? Because the 90 days period is meant to be within 6 months no matter how often I leave and reenter the country, so I would not get another 90 days by border hopping before the 6 months would be over, right?
I'm asking that because I am a little worried about overstaying; I don't mind paying the fine, but am afraid of that there might be any trouble e.g. when trying to book a hostel or anything and having to show my passport with the expired visa...
But if there's no other way, I will do as you suggested!
Thank you very much!
sunflower wrote:Not sure what your problem is Craig.
asgp wrote:Florian-kun wrote:With the Immigration Changes will it be more easy for the Children of Peruvians Over the Age of 18 to get the Peruvian Citizenship ?
Yes... but furthermore, I've been told that in the next months there will be out a new identification law... and with that law the process of Peruvians over the Age of 18 born abroad to get the peruvian citizenship will be inmediate.
7- The Education visa (Formacion): new category which replaces the Student visa
It should also be noted that nationals belonging to the Schengen Area are exempt from this visa, and can ask authorities to be granted the category of “Student” upon entry, which shall last for a period of 90 non-renewable days in a term of 365 days.
on this nice blogCE for Children of Peruvians Over the Age of 18