Hitoruna wrote:I am sorry to say this specially to you, Falconagain but what you write is basically nonsense. In fact it is so much nonsense that I cant pinpoint exactly where and why.
i ll try one little example. The "De la Roca" families were not "poor vicitims" of the "evil indians". The ruling class in Peru has always been a good for nothing non leading class. They like the status quo and never did anything to succeed. There were no Bill Gates coming from there anytime soon. Velazco did them a favor to shake their feudal status so that they had to work to earn their living.
Funny thing, now the "dela piedras" are usually "caviars", the left now in Peru and the business people are coming increasingly from "the indians".
That is one of the reasons why I love talking with gringos and other foreigners. No matter if they are white black or yellow they dont have the huge load of non-sense that we peruvians have. Living outside Peru is actually liberating, when finally we can free ourselves of the "mundo patas parriba" that we Peruvians have in our head. (sigh)
Actually Hitoruna, after Toledos support of the reconciliation movement for the former terrorists backs
me down as the terrorists themselves admit what I said on their own website (Movimiento de la Reconciliacion or something like that). And following Toledos example, our current President Humala hired a group of
historians to research and assess the results taking during this period in history. Some of the preliminary
reports made by the historians or support documents made in the last decade back me down word by word.
I will be posting relevant parts of one of this studies this week.
Besides that, many of the families that I mention were at the same time American Citizens which became
poorer thanks to this government measures and the issue is still not resolved. According to the Peruvian
Government valuation (which usually is half of less than half to the advantage of the state) there is
a debt in the amount $4,500 millions dollars that were supposed to be paid last year (2012).
Which puts in doubt Peru new regime of acceptance of everybody. Meaning, the state pays
when there is dark skinned or indian people involved. But they do not comply when there is
white people involved. Which is the reason people left the country, when they leave you
with the debts and take you wealth is not a free market situation in any civilized country so
you go to where you are treated better. Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.
"The business people are coming increasingly from "the indians." " The government keeps operating
the same way it did on previous occassions. They are growing a middle class, but in this case a totally
ignorant middle class as there were no investments on proper education or adequate infrastructure.
The purpose of this middle class is to show that we are on the path to civilization to get the investments
from abroad and use them as cash cows. Attracting companies for mining, oil, gold and others.
But as soon as the people will get to greaty things will revert to the same situation. The middle class
will be sacrificed to make money for the administrative class of the government. And only the most
corrupt will end up eating a piece of the pie. Which is why they are pushing the Sol as the investment
currency in order to control everything. You could not do that with the previous class in the 70s because
they were moore business saavy than the current one.
Yes its true some Peruvians have el mundo patas arriba, but I am not one of them.
Every country no matter how advanced alse has a load of nonsense within their society. The difference
is that their load might be smallar than the Peruvian, or that the issues are completely different as they
have already solved problems that we are currently struggling with.