Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

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Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

Postby 69roadrunner » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:52 pm

Take this exam to see how susceptible you are to the China Virus and tell us, is this panic really justified.
I would implore everyone to NOT get tested. All you do is add to the mass panic of this scamdemic while giveing the politicians ammunition to clamp down on out freedoms.
The following test will give you an idea if you will contract it and even DIE!!!!!
My numbers were 5% chance of contracting it. 1.262% chance of dying (IF contracted) 99.937 chance of SURVIVING. If I could get same odds for surviving I'd head for the nearest casino, I'd be a millionaire. Take this test and tell us if the madness is justified.

https://www.covid19survivalcalculator.com/en/calculator


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Re: Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

Postby alan » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:15 pm

69roadrunner wrote:Take this exam to see how susceptible you are to the China Virus and tell us, is this panic really justified.
I would implore everyone to NOT get tested. All you do is add to the mass panic of this scamdemic while giveing the politicians ammunition to clamp down on out freedoms.
The following test will give you an idea if you will contract it and even DIE!!!!!
My numbers were 5% chance of contracting it. 1.262% chance of dying (IF contracted) 99.937 chance of SURVIVING. If I could get same odds for surviving I'd head for the nearest casino, I'd be a millionaire. Take this test and tell us if the madness is justified.

https://www.covid19survivalcalculator.com/en/calculator


Interesting tool. Thanks for sharing.

You only have a 5% chance of contraction, which is very low (much lower than mine which is 26%). What measures have you taken?

The biggest strike for me is having been around too many people recently due to some work-related construction.

By the way, in the news this week was a notice regarding the impending shut-down of the Metropolitano bus system, which would effectively push tens of thousands of people into "combis". Any thoughts on the reasoning and repercutions?
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Re: Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

Postby IntiPeque » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:17 pm

Calling this a scamdemic is an insult to the 1.46 million people who have died in the past 11 months. I doubt people living with long COVID would be particularly happy either.

I wonder how accurate this tool would have been for them? I doubt it would have said they had a 100% chance of catching the virus and a 100% chance of dying from it because ultimately that was the REAL data and outcome for them. I suspect this tool would behave differently if the data for those 1.46 million people could somehow be included but it never will be so as someone who spent some years in epidemiology, I take the information from this sort of calculator with a large pinch of salt. By their own admission, their data is incomplete and will change as more data is added.

They just did a mass testing trial in Liverpool UK which uncovered a large number of people who were infected and totally asymptomatic. People who are feeling ill tend to stay home whereas people who feel normal but have the virus tend to go out and carry on their lives as usual and infect people. The mass testing reduced new cases significantly. They are now starting a new trial of daily testing.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-55044488

The site you provided the link to mentions that some reports say that up to 80% of infected people are asymptomatic. Even if the actual number is a quarter of that, that is a huge problem. How many asymptomatic people think this is a scam and refuse to wear masks, have parties with their friends and generally ignore all public health advice regarding COVID? I saw an interview with an ICU nurse who has had several patients die while proclaiming that they couldn't possibly have the virus right up to their very last breath. Talk about being in denial.

You might also check out how well a country like Thailand has managed the pandemic - reportedly in part because of their prior experience with the SARS virus - the infrastructure was still in place. I was living there when COVID cases started to appear in Bangkok. People immediately started wearing masks - no order needed. They had a severe lockdown but have kept their infection and death rate down to a level that would be the envy of any western country [4,000 cases and 60 deaths in a country with a population of 70 million]

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavir ... /thailand/
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Re: Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

Postby billybob72 » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:49 pm

69roadrunner wrote:Take this exam to see how susceptible you are to the China Virus and tell us, is this panic really justified.
I would implore everyone to NOT get tested. All you do is add to the mass panic of this scamdemic while giveing the politicians ammunition to clamp down on out freedoms.
The following test will give you an idea if you will contract it and even DIE!!!!!
My numbers were 5% chance of contracting it. 1.262% chance of dying (IF contracted) 99.937 chance of SURVIVING. If I could get same odds for surviving I'd head for the nearest casino, I'd be a millionaire. Take this test and tell us if the madness is justified.

https://www.covid19survivalcalculator.com/en/calculator


I didn't know you were a virologist? Amazing who you meet online. :?
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Re: Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

Postby noclevername » Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:47 pm

If it's truly a scam, then why would it matter at all how one answers the exam's questions?

The more relevant question would be, 'If one truly believes it's a scam, then why take the test in the first place, why concern oneself with the results, why feel that results showing a lower percentage of contracting COVID and a higher liklihood of surviving COVID is a better result than a result that shows a 99% chance of contracting and a 1% chance of survival, or at all relevant?

Wouldn't someone who truly believes it's a scam believe they have a 0% percent chance of contracting, being hospitialized, and dying of the virus, since, you know - it's a scam.

The logic just isn't there. It's like believing the boogie man is just a story, doesn't exist except to put fear in people, but then taking a test to find out how succeptible you are to becoming a victim of the boogie man, putting faith in the test and the results, and stating that because you have low succeptibility to being a victim of the boogie man it shows that the boogie man is just a scam, even if how others answer give different results that show they have a higher suceptibility.

I'm also wondering what are the lack of freedoms? Can't go to a disco until this virus is under control? Can't go to a movie theatre? Can't throw a large gathering? Show us on the doll where it hurts, and would you like a tissue for the tears and a band-aid for the owie? These types would truly melt if they had to go through WWII and had to participate in Civil Defense drills, turn their lights out at night, make sacrifices for the troops who were fighting true tyranny, were subject to daily bombings, could be thrown in a Nazi concentration camp, etc.. Then again, there are deniers who thought the holocaust was a scam.

And how does it serve politicians to deny voters who to go to/own discos, movie theatres, packed indoor restaurants, etc? What do the politicians gain by putting restrictions on the economy? Why would the multi-nationals who finance the politicians allow them to destroy their businesses bottom lines? Again, the logic is about as deep as dime or a S/. 1 coin.
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Re: Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

Postby 69roadrunner » Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:14 am

Interesting responses to a simple test that will tell us how unsustainable to the virus we are. I thought it would be good news. But it looks like it just made some more upset and frightened.
I guess Alan is the only one that took the test and reported. Maybe the ones that did not post results was because they did not like the result that they will not likely get the virus? Goes against the propaganda?
Isn't odd we are forced to wear a mask and keep our distance to protect ourselves and others, yet we have to endure, forced into ridiculous restrictions, in addition. Do masks and distance work or not?
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Re: Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

Postby IntiPeque » Tue Dec 01, 2020 12:50 pm

noclevername wrote:Wouldn't someone who truly believes it's a scam believe they have a 0% percent chance of contracting, being hospitialized, and dying of the virus, since, you know - it's a scam.

The logic just isn't there. It's like believing the boogie man is just a story, doesn't exist except to put fear in people, but then taking a test to find out how succeptible you are to becoming a victim of the boogie man, putting faith in the test and the results, and stating that because you have low succeptibility to being a victim of the boogie man it shows that the boogie man is just a scam, even if how others answer give different results that show they have a higher suceptibility.

These types would truly melt if they had to go through WWII and had to participate in Civil Defense drills, turn their lights out at night, make sacrifices for the troops who were fighting true tyranny, were subject to daily bombings, could be thrown in a Nazi concentration camp, etc.. Then again, there are deniers who thought the holocaust was a scam.

I love the analogy you used - it's perfect.

I have seen reference to WWII come up on other forums. I grew up listening to my parents, aunts & uncles taking about what they went through during the war and the hardships didn't end when peace was declared as rationing continued for quite some time. They had to endure several years of their normal way of life being disrupted. People back then pulled together - not so much nowadays.
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Re: Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

Postby noclevername » Tue Dec 01, 2020 1:26 pm

IntiPeque wrote:
noclevername wrote:Wouldn't someone who truly believes it's a scam believe they have a 0% percent chance of contracting, being hospitialized, and dying of the virus, since, you know - it's a scam.

The logic just isn't there. It's like believing the boogie man is just a story, doesn't exist except to put fear in people, but then taking a test to find out how succeptible you are to becoming a victim of the boogie man, putting faith in the test and the results, and stating that because you have low succeptibility to being a victim of the boogie man it shows that the boogie man is just a scam, even if how others answer give different results that show they have a higher suceptibility.

These types would truly melt if they had to go through WWII and had to participate in Civil Defense drills, turn their lights out at night, make sacrifices for the troops who were fighting true tyranny, were subject to daily bombings, could be thrown in a Nazi concentration camp, etc.. Then again, there are deniers who thought the holocaust was a scam.

I love the analogy you used - it's perfect.

I have seen reference to WWII come up on other forums. I grew up listening to my parents, aunts & uncles taking about what they went through during the war and the hardships didn't end when peace was declared as rationing continued for quite some time. They had to endure several years of their normal way of life being disrupted. People back then pulled together - not so much nowadays.

A lot of people are soft, whiney, and act all entitled now. Maybe from being born and raised during post-war prosperity when not all, but a lot of people in America never had it so easy. They act like wearing a mask is the greatest inconvenience and attrocity ever known to man. Their parents and grandparents who went through more difficult hardships without whining and crying about it would likely be disapointed at how weak and fragile their offspring turned out.
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Re: Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

Postby Lagos » Wed Jan 06, 2021 4:23 pm

Thinking the pandemic is a scam doesn't mean people think the virus doesn't exist and no one will get sick. It means people think the response to the virus is overrated. COVID is real and people need to be careful, but government shutdowns are hurting more people than they are helping.

Our experience is that all of us, immediate and extended family living in Lima, were unable to work, didn't qualify for the government payments, wore masks, and contracted COVID. The shutdown drained our savings and did nothing to keep us from getting sick.
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Re: Is The Reaction To The Scamdemic Justified?

Postby 69roadrunner » Thu Jan 07, 2021 7:17 am

Lagos wrote: The shutdown drained our savings and did nothing to keep us from getting sick.

Well said.
Is anyone listening? Makes no sense for people sitting fat and happy with their government jobs telling us, not in government jobs, where and when we can work, what we can and can not do.

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