fanning wrote:Did they put a stamp in your passport that you are a resident
fanning wrote:and did they take your TAM ?
Dave wrote:They took my previous one when I started my application back in March. In April I left the country for a week and returned and got another one. They didn't seem to know that I had gotten another one and didn't ask for it today when they gave me the CE.
randomperson wrote:I too plan to apply for CE this summer but during the 2 year waiting period
randomperson wrote:Does anyone know under what circumstances a "permiso para viajar" is given? I too plan to apply for CE this summer but during the 2 year waiting period will need to travel back to the US regularly. My question is not about the length of stay but the permiso itself.
fanning wrote:Dave wrote:They took my previous one when I started my application back in March. In April I left the country for a week and returned and got another one. They didn't seem to know that I had gotten another one and didn't ask for it today when they gave me the CE.
So when you left, you didn't have a TAM, how did you solve that ?
And when you got back you got a fresh TAM, stamped as a tourist, so now you are here as a tourist. You can get a copy of your migration movements in Migraciones, and possibly correct the last entry as a tourist.randomperson wrote:I too plan to apply for CE this summer but during the 2 year waiting period
What waiting period are you talking about. There is no waiting period. To get your CE might take some months to process, but once you have it you are free to travel. You cannot leave more than 6 months, or you will loose your CE, but you can travel as much as you want.
Maybe you are talking about changing from a resident ( with a CE ) to a citizen ( with a DNI ) in that case you must have your CE for at least 2 years ( and get the prorroga for the 3rd year ) before you can do the tramite for citizenship. But also in that case you can travel as much as you want, as long as it isn't longer than 6 months a time.
fanning wrote:So when you left, you didn't have a TAM, how did you solve that ?
fanning wrote:And when you got back you got a fresh TAM, stamped as a tourist, so now you are here as a tourist. You can get a copy of your migration movements in Migraciones, and possibly correct the last entry as a tourist.
fanning wrote:Haven't you read the papers, people have lost their CE and were deported without possibility to ever return to Peru and get residency ( while being married to a Peruvian ) because they were using loopholes and were ignorant about getting their papers correct. ( A case of a divorced resident with Peruvian, who remarried with another Peruvian, but never got the divorce registered with Digemin )
If they told you you cannot leave Peru during the application, what makes you think that there will not be consequences ? At some point Migraciones will find out and if they enforce strict, you could get into a lot of redtape problems.
( When I applied for citizenship it turned out for example that on one of my returns to Peru I was accidentally registered as a tourist, and not a resident. I was forced to rectify that entry, before I could continue with the citizenship tramite ). This is an example that errors can follow you back for years later..
tupacperu wrote:My very first Carnet I had to travel back to the US for an emergency. I was in the process of getting my carnet. I had to start all over again, upon entering the immigration agent noted I had a carnet.
Dave wrote:It might also be worth mentioning that I'm not planning on getting citizenship, and am even planning to leave Peru permanently (and give up my CE) in just 3 months anyway, and don't plan to come back for more than a week or two at a time after that.
mammamia wrote:You should have started with this one. If you are not interested in keeping your CE you don't have to worry about your situation too much. You'll be able to enter Peru as a tourist should they cancel the CE for some reason. But I would recommend that you follow Fanning's advice about sorting out your stamp problem (changing your tourist entrance to PEB entrance) just to be on the safe side. That can cause you some trouble in the future: once I had to have a stamp cancelled (the put a wrong date of entrance) in order to be able to start a tramite at DIGEMIN.
fanning wrote:In that case, why don't you cancel your CE just before your trip in June, and when you return you return as a tourist until finally leaving for good in August ? In that way you would not have to worry about if your CE is valid or not, because you cancelled it yourself..
Dave wrote:That would be fine; when you cancel your CE do they give you a new tourist visa on the spot? I don't know if the 183-day that I got in April will still count.
Dave wrote:Just an update on this:
-- I went to Migraciones and explained my situation honestly and in detail. After talking to her supervisor the agent told me all that matters is that I have my Carnet and I should be fine from here.
-- I left the country a week ago and presented my CE. No questions asked.
-- Came back 2 days ago, presented my CE with the TAM that they gave me on leaving. No questions asked.
So in my case anyway, it seems that for whatever reason they did not enforce the rule that I will lose my CE progress for leaving the country without the special permiso. I'd definitely recommend trying to get it if you can, but if you have no time to get it before your trip, my experience proves that it's at least not guaranteed that you will lose the progress on your CE. May you factor that knowledge into the decision when weighing the costs of canceling or delaying your trip because you didn't get your special permiso. Of course I could still have a problem with this down the road if I were to apply for citizenship, but I have no plans to do that.
MarcoPE wrote:Yes, once you have your CE you can leave the country...however, if you leave the country prior to or during the CE process, you will have to start the process over.