Moving Permit: Municipality or Comisaria?

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Moving Permit: Municipality or Comisaria?

Postby cajun jamie » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:25 am

Hi all,
Planning my move this afternoon and want my moving permit. I am moving things from Surco to La Molina. I'm not sure where I need to get my moving permit. I was told I may need to get two, one for Surco and one for La Molina.

I was also told to go to the Municipality for this, but then another person said go to the Commisaria. Can someone please clear this up for me? Where is the Surco Municipality?

Thanks!
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Postby Jimmy111 » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:49 am

You need a permit to move? :shock:
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Postby mammalu » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:53 am

What? I must've been away too long. You need a permit to move?

Or are you kdding again, Jamie? :wink:

UPDATE

NO joke, I've just got a link from "El Comercio". You cannot move on holidays or sundays. Comisaria (where you have lived, has to issue the permit).....and more stuff! Something about your paid bills, etc.

http://www.elcomercio.com.pe/edicionimp ... artir.html
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Postby cajun jamie » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:55 am

We've already discussed this, but I can't find the thread. Yes, you know, the permit that proves you are moving your furniture and not robbing a house. If you don't have it, you can show a receipt for all contents in the truck, or pay the bribe.

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Postby David » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:56 am

Sorry for the non response but, like I said, I'd just say if stopped that I was donating all the stuff to the local (whatever).

Yes, now I'm telling someone to break a law in another country. What can I say, I'm a bad man!
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Postby cajun jamie » Wed Sep 24, 2008 11:59 am

OK, found out it's the Commissaria. For Surco it is off of Velazco Astete and Primavera, Step 1 accomplished.

For directions, it is north of Primavera, on Galeon. A block north and one block to the right.

You only need one for where you are removing furniture. Not the destination.


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Postby Kelly » Wed Sep 24, 2008 1:15 pm

it's true - most of the moving truck guys won't move your furniture unless you have the papers in order. Or pay them a little extra. ;)
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Postby naturegirl » Thu Sep 25, 2008 8:57 am

We were never asked for papers. So Jamie, what did you have to do to get them? HOw much is it? What papers do you need to get the permit?
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Postby tupacperu » Thu Sep 25, 2008 1:24 pm

A moving Permit is just a list of your items you are moving. You will only need to get it from the place you are moving from, you will give your destination on the documents.

It is always better to have a moving permit. It is not expensive. There have been accounts that people hire a guy with a truck to move them and they take off with your personal property. The truck driver has to identify himself on the permit.

The other thing is, that if stopped by the police with a load of your stuff and the driver does not have a permit, he can be arrested for theft and your property confiscated. You will not be able to get your property back or you will need to do some explaining.
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Postby americorps » Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:09 pm

Yes, it is a little bit of a hassle, but not expensive, but it does protect us.

I moved without it last time, and nearly lost my stuff. The fact that my partner's sister worked for the Municipality and the cops new here was the only thing that saved us (that plus 20 soles for ...)

However, after I moved, someone in my new neighborhood was mooving out and the police checked if they had their permit, they did not..it ended up that they were steaking from a family on vacation and if the police had not checked, everything the family owned would have been gone when they returned.

I support the mudanza permit.
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Postby mammalu » Thu Sep 25, 2008 6:21 pm

Americorps wrote:Yes, it is a little bit of a hassle, but not expensive, but it does protect us.

I moved without it last time, and nearly lost my stuff. The fact that my partner's sister worked for the Municipality and the cops new here was the only thing that saved us (that plus 20 soles for ...)

However, after I moved, someone in my new neighborhood was mooving out and the police checked if they had their permit, they did not..it ended up that they were steaking from a family on vacation and if the police had not checked, everything the family owned would have been gone when they returned.

I support the mudanza permit.


I remember incidents many years ago when people did not want to announce funeral details (time, etc) on the newspaper, as they ran the risk of returning to an empty house after the funeral.

Many years ago in Lima, we saw new neighbors moving into a house down the block. A couple of weeks later they moved out. They were newlyweds who after moving in left for their honeymoon. In the meantime somebody knew they were away and stole all their belongings. :cry:

Americorps? If those 'thieves' that were stealing have given also 20 soles to the police, would they have also got away?
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Postby cajun jamie » Thu Sep 25, 2008 7:52 pm

I went to the Comisaria, spoke to the police, here was the list for "certificado de mudanza"

1- Pay Banco de la nacion. How much? No idea.
2- Get a letter from the home owner with permission to move property.
3- Get the DNI copy of the home owner
4- Get a copy of a utility bill of the home owner
5- Make a list of the stuff
6- Get a copy of the drivers license of the truck driver
7- Get a copy of the DNI of the truck driver
8- Get a copy of the registration of the truck driver
9- Get a copy of the SOAT of the truck driver
10- Provide the address of the destination.

SO, what did I do?

I must offer thanks to Deny. I used her recommendations twice for important things and both times they were perfect. Deny recommended Liliana Ibanez for translations and Enrique Valdivia for moving.

Enrique has a brand-new, closed box moving truck and has been in business for 11 years. He is on time, professional and courteous. He even arranges to have a policeman escort him on the trip, no certificate needed. However, there is a small fee for his time.

I moved from Ovalo Higuereta to way back in La Molina, on the 3rd floor. He charged 100 soles plus 30 for the police services. Enrique drove, I sat in the middle, the policeman on my right. We chatted the whole way, it was fun.

I was VERY pleased with his services and highly recommend him.

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Postby Kelly » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:59 am

Now that is some excellent information.
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Postby naturegirl » Fri Sep 26, 2008 7:38 am

So you didn't get the moving permit after all? Probably for the best. Too much paperwork.
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Postby tupacperu » Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:29 am

Actually it only take a few (2) hours. The mover fills out his info and you fill out yours. Trip to the bank to pay, then return to the comissary.

I don't think 20 soles would be enough for the police. They could confiscate you stuff and sell it for more. You do not have a record that the property is yours, so the police can skim your best stuff and leave the rest at the comissary.
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Postby naturegirl » Fri Sep 26, 2008 9:32 am

I guess maybe nothing's ever happened to us because we don't relaly have anything worth stealing.

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